Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

struggle4progress

(126,133 posts)
25. I might indeed have been persuadable of that claim, had there been a small identifiable cluster
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 12:29 AM
Mar 2013

of malfeasance issues, that could made sense of the release as principled whistleblowing

But in fact, it is easy to see that there is no such cluster:

(1) The sheer number of cables -- over a quarter million -- indicates there is no such cluster;
(2) The fact that Manning said, prior to the release, that his release would provide a searchable database of diplomatic communications, rather than offering an identifiable cluster of exposes, also indicates there is no such cluster;
(3) The fact that the transfer to Wikileaks -- which portrays itself as an editing and publishing organization -- did not lead to any systematic exposes, but rather led to incoherent batch releases and a search utility, further indicates there is no such cluster;
(4) The fact that Manning, in his statement today, did not point out any small identifiable cluster of malfeasance issues, governing his selection of cables to release, again indicates there is no such cluster; and
(5) The fact that, to date, no has identified a small identifiable cluster of malfeasance issues, that could have motivated Manning, has emerged from the cables

Indeed, how could a quarter million cables, in some cases dating back to the 1960s, from US embassies around the globe, possibly represent an attempt to expose any particular malfeasance? Unfortunately for Manning, all evidence points in a different direction. The only credible interpretation is that Manning performed a massive random dump of diplomatic communications to Wikileaks; that he gave Wikileaks no useful pointers about what the dump contained; and that Wikileaks -- having no definite notion of how to tell a small number of coherent tales of malfeasance based on the cables -- was therefore constrained to offer the cables (i) to mainstream press, in order to mine them for whatever information they might contain and (ii) to the general public, with a search utility, in hopes that the general public might also mine them for whatever information they might contain

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Bradley Manning: the face of heroism [View all] Luminous Animal Feb 2013 OP
Some of Manning's testimony... Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #1
Now three years in custody ... Scuba Feb 2013 #2
+1. pacalo Feb 2013 #4
+2 Useless in FL Feb 2013 #6
Telling the truth in the US is a very dangerous thing to do. sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #13
+10000000000 woo me with science Mar 2013 #17
I wish our potus tblue Mar 2013 #39
"Americans love non-conformity and often reward it with the metal of honor (sic).” Lenny Bruce deutsey Mar 2013 #46
this is not America's finest hour but its worst lovuian Feb 2013 #3
petraeus and allen two generals leaked info lovuian Feb 2013 #5
Exactly...but like the Black Panther Kept in Solitary for 40 Years... KoKo Feb 2013 #7
Obama should pardon him. mwrguy Feb 2013 #8
Yes, he should, but I'm waiting for the lightening to strike I'm afraid. n/t Cleita Feb 2013 #9
Be realistic... Whats_that Mar 2013 #44
Be realistic. Cleita Mar 2013 #58
Hardly... Whats_that Mar 2013 #60
A deterrent to keep others from exposing the war crimes that Cleita Mar 2013 #63
So many weak points. randome Feb 2013 #10
I suspect the defense will ask for another delay of trial after this round of hearings. msanthrope Feb 2013 #11
Huh? Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #12
You're wasting your time, I hate to tell you. sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #14
I was thrilled to see that he didn't "turn" on Wikileaks... he stuck with his ideals... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #19
Um...I think Mr. Manning has figured out that he was used by Mr. Assange-- msanthrope Mar 2013 #22
As you have been told time and time again, the organization that manages Wikileaks' funds Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #28
The excuses for Assange are endless. Your second paragraph is a rather revealing analogy. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #31
Yes, that was a huge concern, and I'm sure part of the reason why he was sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #50
Let me know when Assange gets around to releasing the bank info.... msanthrope Mar 2013 #20
And as you have been told time and time and again Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #29
No one made a backup? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #34
Great plot for a novel. nt. MH1 Mar 2013 #55
Let us know when any charges are filed, okay? Three years, no charges, political sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #42
I suspect charges will be filed as the Belmarsh court indicated they would: msanthrope Mar 2013 #68
I suspect no charges will ever be filed nor were they ever intending to file them. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #72
From your link. randome Mar 2013 #18
Um, that is from a live blogger who has asked to wait for her final report... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #21
Both papers have denied having contact with Manning. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #23
"Hilary Clinton, and several thousand diplomats around the world are going to have a heart attack struggle4progress Feb 2013 #15
It is an accurate observation and has nothing to do with motive. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #16
Actually, it has quite a bit to do with intent. Motive is great, but not a requirement. What that msanthrope Mar 2013 #24
Honestly, I'd like to keep this going and I have things to say... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #32
I am very sorry. We can argue later, right now know that your cat died msanthrope Mar 2013 #35
Oh, no... woo me with science Mar 2013 #36
Oh no. Clearly your cat had a lovely long life, but it is so hard cali Mar 2013 #40
I'm so sorry, Luminous Animal sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #43
Damn. I'm sorry to hear that deutsey Mar 2013 #48
Aw Damn... Sorry Luminous... WillyT Mar 2013 #67
I might indeed have been persuadable of that claim, had there been a small identifiable cluster struggle4progress Mar 2013 #25
Manning admitted today that he didn't seek official channels--i.e. whistleblower status-- msanthrope Mar 2013 #26
Dumb kid. struggle4progress Mar 2013 #27
He reported abuses to his superiors and was ignored. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #51
he made the Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #41
Why are you a Manning detractor? Coyotl Mar 2013 #73
This... Whats_that Mar 2013 #45
And you need to read some of the facts of this case. He reported torture something sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #49
The SOFA 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #54
Well said. MH1 Mar 2013 #56
Well said if you support torture and war crimes going unpunished. Very sad to see sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #59
First of all, this whole 'war' was based on lies. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #57
His only Transformation 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #66
Well said... Whats_that Mar 2013 #70
The torture memos were part of the Gitmo dump which WAS NOT MANNING Recursion Mar 2013 #64
P.J. Crowley moondust Mar 2013 #30
Crowley was looking for an excuse to resign, having already applied for the Omar Bradley chair, struggle4progress Mar 2013 #38
None of that has anything to do what he said, which was correct. Torturing a sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #47
"... I was asked .. why the United States government was "torturing" Private First Class Bradley struggle4progress Mar 2013 #61
The whistle blower goes to trial and the people whose crimes he exposed goes free. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #33
This is where the ploblem lies Peregrine Mar 2013 #53
Yup. woo me with science Mar 2013 #65
This man has been through some serious shit upi402 Mar 2013 #37
REC!!!!! Jumpin Jack Fletch Mar 2013 #52
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #62
Yes... along with Aldrich Ames and the Walkers whistler162 Mar 2013 #69
K&R woo me with science Mar 2013 #71
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Bradley Manning: the face...»Reply #25