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86. I agree with that, I am disgusted and that is why I am calling for something different

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In POB's Own Words:"Democrats have to accept the need for entitlement reform" [View all] KoKo Feb 2013 OP

Well... woo me with science Feb 2013 #1

Entitlement reform doesn't mean cuts. There is inefficiency in every government and private company bluestate10 Feb 2013 #2

But you can't bash the President putting it like that madokie Feb 2013 #3

I understand. One DU member is lionized for his wild and disingenuous attacks on the bluestate10 Feb 2013 #19

A few are in competition.. one_voice Mar 2013 #111

You Better Believe It! nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #63

:) treestar Mar 2013 #104

Right... because democrats are currently unwilling to accept efficient government whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #5

efficient Meaniepants Mar 2013 #110

Entitlement reform doesn't HAVE TO include cuts . . . markpkessinger Feb 2013 #18

What democrats need to accept is that there is some waste in programs that we care about. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #23

I don't think anybody has disputed that . . . markpkessinger Feb 2013 #26

The discussion on the table has nothing to do with waste. It is about making immediate cuts. robinlynne Mar 2013 #77

^^^THIS^^^^ treestar Mar 2013 #106

yes....there's that for sure. Media goes into a frenzy and KoKo Mar 2013 #112

#1 wasteful entity: the pentagon noiretextatique Mar 2013 #116

Your right, no politician would ever say reform.... daleanime Feb 2013 #22

Uh--Democrats need to understand about getting rid of inefficiencies? Literally nonsense. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #29

See my example on state health care versus town by town health care. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #43

The Chained CPI, which he is willing to consider, IS cuts. We are NOT stupid, at least sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #40

Perhaps you see a bit more what I've been talking about in our previous discussions customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #70

If this passes, this president will be the first Democratic president to sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #97

To me, that is becoming a non-Democrat. It is my very definition. I really do not give a rat's WinkyDink Mar 2013 #101

Thank-you. robinlynne Mar 2013 #78

Social Security's administrative costs are less than 1% MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #62

"often results in expanded benefits" = no, it doesn't. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #88

Oh, brother... whatever. Marr Mar 2013 #90

Problem with this theory: the Pres said his own supporters wont like it Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #92

The President is an excellent speaker. If he meant to say correcting inefficiency, he COULD SAY IT! progressoid Mar 2013 #108

At this point it's MORE THAN disingenuous to equate reform with benefit cuts. I cut my phone bill uponit7771 Feb 2013 #4

Define "reform" and we'll determine if it is a cut or not. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #7

That's what worries me...will the Repugs Decide the Reform? KoKo Feb 2013 #8

Is the Chained CPI a cut or is it not? If sure isn't 'reform' to any Democrat I know. sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #42

The money was stolen by previous Congresses customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #71

No, it was borrowed, probably with the intention of stealing it. The fund is receiving sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #100

Social security checks will be reduced. period. robinlynne Mar 2013 #79

So Where RobinA Mar 2013 #96

What democrats have to accept is whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #6

The thing to accept is ProSense Feb 2013 #9

But...I seem to remember you saying that "Entitlements" were not KoKo Feb 2013 #12

Well, ProSense Feb 2013 #13

Chained CPI **IS** a cut. Bake Feb 2013 #32

^^^ this ^^^ TDale313 Mar 2013 #73

Facts don't influence blind emotion. You present facts and logic, many on DU present bluestate10 Feb 2013 #33

There was a fight in my home state a couple of years ago. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #30

What state would that be? Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #46

Why are Social Programs part of a discussion about the Deficit? And why are sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #44

Here: ProSense Feb 2013 #52

Yeah, too bad we didn't get the PO. That would have solved that problem. sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #54

We're rapidly heading for a brick wall with Medicare customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #72

and why Obama would propose such cuts! robinlynne Mar 2013 #80

Oh, I'm sorry, whatchamacallit brentspeak Feb 2013 #51

No he would NOT. robinlynne Mar 2013 #81

I remember when you said Obama would NEVER try to cut Social Security, and that if he DID, Marr Mar 2013 #91

Sometimes ... GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #115

That they now have a 2 front war to wage. kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #21

That would be what the Republicans have "accepted" treestar Mar 2013 #107

Obama's idea of "balance" is total BULLSHIT. Chained CPI means seniors will go hungry. Does forestpath Feb 2013 #10

Boehner hasn't taken him up on the offer yet and ProSense Feb 2013 #11

It's just a kick down the road...this will go on. But POB stated KoKo Feb 2013 #14

Boehner is never going to accept the President's proposal. ProSense Feb 2013 #16

Why are these programs part of this discussion? Is there some reason why sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #47

And besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2013 #66

Oh, gosh. Another crisis. Sigh. Somebody do something. Are we talking about the Y2K crisis? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #15

Worse and worse. kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #17

A sense of entitlement. Bonobo Feb 2013 #20

Connecting Entitlement Reform to Immigration Reform ProSense Feb 2013 #25

I would throw all my support for that man to be President. Bonobo Feb 2013 #27

Yeah, and he used the words: entitlement reform ProSense Feb 2013 #28

I never said it was a horror. Bonobo Feb 2013 #45

Robert Reich: "The Hoax of Entitlement Reform" 1/6/2013/ KoKo Feb 2013 #35

The commentary I linked to was posted: February 20, 2013 n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #39

Yes...but he was focused on "Immigration Reform" KoKo Feb 2013 #49

"Immigration reform and entitlement reform have a lot to do with one another." ProSense Feb 2013 #50

It is not a crises decision for now..Reich said "Reform is a Hoax." KoKo Feb 2013 #69

What on earth ProSense Mar 2013 #76

Mmmm. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #24

I do not accept entitlement reform. ananda Feb 2013 #31

Do you support turning Medicare into a single payer system? Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #41

Is that a part of the debate? Is the President proposing Medicare for all? sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #48

I never said the President was proposing it, I am proposing it as are many others Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #58

Well, I agree with you and am having a very difficult time understanding why sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #60

One word: money Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #67

They are talking about cuts. robinlynne Mar 2013 #82

Why limit ourselves to what they are talking about? Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #83

It means we should be disgusted. robinlynne Mar 2013 #85

I agree with that, I am disgusted and that is why I am calling for something different Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #86

Nope, tax the rich. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #34

The answer. Octafish Mar 2013 #75

Really kind of obvious, if you think about it. nt Deep13 Mar 2013 #84

I am very open to entitlement reform, in fact many progressives have pushed reform for years Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #36

But...that's not on the table...and it's the Repugs who KoKo Feb 2013 #53

That is why we need to keep pushing it until it is on the table Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #56

Ultimately That's Where We're Headed... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #64

I thought that exploding health care costs in the private sector.... YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #37

Yup, screw sick/old people so rich people can stay rich/get richer MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #38

Lesson learned DJ13 Feb 2013 #55

RAISE THE FICA CAP! pansypoo53219 Feb 2013 #57

Take it up to $400K Gman Feb 2013 #59

Agree...but, so far not seen it talked about. KoKo Feb 2013 #68

+ a bazillion TDale313 Mar 2013 #74

We do need reform. Such as lifting/raising the cap on SS I Cant Dance Feb 2013 #61

Hello ~ I Cant Dance. In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #95

(Why is it always about BUSINESS and CONSUMERS?") Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #65

"provide the kind of certainty that you need" Dragonfli Mar 2013 #87

I shouldn't comment here ;the dtom67 Mar 2013 #89

Our system has been taken over by corporate powers. It's not a new thing, sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #98

Keep speaking out. woo me with science Mar 2013 #103

We all know where this is going. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #93

What/who is POB? Scuba Mar 2013 #94

you know, mr. pob...... spanone Mar 2013 #99

He was a TV star: muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #117

One reform that hurts nobody: riqster Mar 2013 #102

And right after that: treestar Mar 2013 #105

What I find most interesting in their Orwellian Speak... Oilwellian Mar 2013 #109

And once again it's used right after Left Leaning Democrats came KoKo Mar 2013 #113

Yes Oilwellian Mar 2013 #114

yep..."Sweet Jesus"....truly...what IS IT? KoKo Mar 2013 #119

He can shove his entitlement reform straight up his ass. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #118

^^^That's what a DEMOCRAT sounds like kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #120