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JustAnotherGen

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34. I would agree bigtree
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 07:52 AM
Jan 2012

And I am HEARING what the poster is saying but . . . Jobs first in Tandem with a Paycheck Fairness Act.

Imagine you are a gay couple - two black women - married and TRYING to obtain the American dream, raise a family in a food, shelter, medical secure environment. You work in let's say - a wireless carrier's headquarters in Open Development. You know a gay Caucasian male couple in the Marketing Communications Department.

You - the black female couple are only making .61$ for every dollar the two men make. The sexual orientation of the two men is not up for consideration and neither is that of the two women. Simple their gender is in play.

Now if it is two latina/hispanic women they are making $.52 on the dollar.

Caucasian women - $.77 on the dollar.

I'm not 100% certain as the military is shrouded in mystery - but take them out of that telecom environment and put any of these four couples in the military. Those women can serve openly, but because of their gender, they serve at less pay.

Now look at our economy . . . Imagine in January 2013 we have this President, and majorities in the House and Senate who can get an intensive infrastructure development bill passed. We need this. We do. The pay law passed in the early 1960's STILL did not catch women up with men. It's been almost 40 years - and we are still left behind. Any wages paid need to be paid fairly at these Team America jobs. If you are a government contractor - and you aren't paying a fair and equal wage - you should eligible for punishment.

We can't wait anymore - straight women or gay women. We are attending university and obtaining advanced degrees at record levels. We are delaying marriage and children (I'm a perfect example of this - getting married in April at 39) in order to pay off our debts/student loans, advance in our careers by being able to move at the drop of a hat (no need to worry about husband and children), and staying late at work so our male counterparts can go coach their daughters soccer team. Enough! We've paid our dues for team America and I don't want it pushed aside anymore.

I am familiar with unequal pay. I've felt it's sting directly - when I was hired onto a team and had to deal with an insubordinate male who could not take direction or instruction for a woman he felt was beneath him (part of that was cultural) but who ran with The Boys Club. He made 11k more a year than me with less education AND marketing experienve (previous positions all in IT) rolled in at 9:15 AM, left at 4:45 but was the fair haired boy.

By the way - I'm a black (bi-racial) woman and my company gets accolades for being a great place to work for women, blacks, working mothers, etc etc. Understand how bad my situation looks?

I'm not the only one. Because this shit spreads like wildfire there. All we need is a law that allows me to share what I know about that gay male couple that I am friends with - and the 14 women at my company who have approached me- without getting them fired. I need to be able to show that org chart AND my former employees HR Profile without fear of retaliation. Those 14 other women have documentation too.


I'm not asking for homosexuals to wait - not for a thing. I'm asking them to think of the gay women that will not be able to prosper at the rate a gay male couple will. . . Just because those two women had the misfortune to be born women.


We've waited too. And there is no point in two women getting married and having a family if they work so damn hard to provide - but never get paid what they are worth. . . So life is a constant economic struggle.

Now ask me how I feel about the book/movie The Help. they are a heckava group of "girls" but no one wants the ugly truth about why they had to take those jobs in the first place!

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The Lilly Ledbetter was unequivocally good MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #1
Half truths, spin, and innuendo. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #11
Bullshit. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #25
This seems like more "magic wand" stuff. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #28
If Obama had said: MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #31
Still in LA LA land I see, where there are no Republicans emulatorloo Jan 2012 #38
Rep. Conyers: "Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP" MannyGoldstein Feb 2012 #45
I have tons of respect for Conyers. Don't insult him by comparing yourself to him. emulatorloo Feb 2012 #48
So then you agree with Conyers that Obama demanded cuts to Social Security MannyGoldstein Feb 2012 #49
As much as I we like his picks for economic positions they seem to be working so maybe we're wrong. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #43
Oh lordy....the inevitable Buttttttt Sheepshank Jan 2012 #13
"Pretty much on target for MG." Number23 Jan 2012 #27
The Lily Ledbetter Act was a good thing, MadHound Jan 2012 #2
And it's ALL Obama's fault! Who does he think he is??!?!?!? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #17
Just another DU'er who whose "worldview" leaves out the existence of Republicans. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #21
you are you fucking kidding? Skittles Jan 2012 #24
I was drinking a coke when I read this post... Rex Jan 2012 #29
you want I should kick your coke-spewing ass, Rex? Skittles Jan 2012 #32
... Rex Jan 2012 #33
Yes, I am forgetting how benevolent Republicans really are emulatorloo Jan 2012 #39
That was a historic day JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #3
you summed that up perfectly, JustAnotherGen bigtree Jan 2012 #4
Good post malaise Jan 2012 #9
excellent post. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #12
Nicely done! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #18
'But the President is driven by a strong sense of fairness' (except on marriage equality) Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #5
thank you, Bluenorthwest bigtree Jan 2012 #6
I did not enjoy making that point. Lilly is a heroic person, and that law with her name is Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #7
again, you make an excellent point bigtree Jan 2012 #8
I wonder....why a post acknowleding Lilly Ledbetter must be "pork barrelled" Sheepshank Jan 2012 #15
I get what you're saying (and I greatly appreciate it) bigtree Jan 2012 #19
I would agree bigtree JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #34
An excellent point emulatorloo Jan 2012 #14
...and I maintain and strongly feel that if re-elected, he'll be free to do so. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #20
Absolutely. That's my main goal for GOTV this election. emulatorloo Jan 2012 #22
Mine, too! I live in MD, which is a very BLUE state. And what's more, my governor Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #23
I agree too JustAnotherGen Jan 2012 #35
As a black woman myself who is incredibly proud of her gay father, I'm praying that Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #36
I don't know that we gave up on Corzine JustAnotherGen Feb 2012 #46
I had forgotten about the Green candidate. You're right. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #47
^ bigtree Jan 2012 #10
But we were told that he "lacked moral compass" and just gives "pretty speeches." Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #16
Sincere question, what was Obama's history with this bill? TiberiusB Jan 2012 #26
well, I do remember Sen. Obama campaigning for the legislation bigtree Jan 2012 #30
Thanks for this! And from the WSJ, no less. There are too many people who Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #37
It is called "Damage Control" emulatorloo Jan 2012 #40
All salient points, but not exactly what I was asking.. TiberiusB Jan 2012 #42
I don't know what my family and I would be doing if not for Obama UrbScotty Jan 2012 #41
Wages have not gone up in 30 years.... lib2DaBone Jan 2012 #44
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