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RC

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25. Electing Hillary would be a continuation of the current problems.

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 04:16 PM

Mar 2013

She is another 3rd Way Democrat. Being a Democrat does not mean what it used to. Being for the Worker, the common person. The Democratic party leadership currently is to the Right of Richard Nixon. Most Democratic Congress Critters are on the same pocket as the bought off Republicans. But, we don't seem to care, as long as they are not as bad as the Republicans. Think frog in pot on stove.

DU has many unthinking members that use only the labels, such as (D) and (R) to differentiate between between the 'good guys' and the 'bad guys'. Hence, even though they campaign for "Democrats", the reality is that they are campaigning for the further swing of the Democratic Party to the Right. We need to go back the other way, to the Left. But first, we must pass over Center, to be on that Left. Being the shadow of the Republicans is clearly not working very well for us, U.S.

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Who should lead the Democratic Party in 2016 [View all] ProSense Mar 2013 OP

Not Elizabeth Warren. cali Mar 2013 #1

bingo Little Star Mar 2013 #9

Um... are you saying whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #18

Uh, no. Not saying that at all. Saying she is a) not an experienced politician cali Mar 2013 #22

Ah I see... whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #24

I can duffyduff Mar 2013 #31

I've known nationally-recognized scholars who would make piss-poor Presidents. winter is coming Mar 2013 #40

of course statehouse politics counts. duh cali Mar 2013 #57

Yeah, she'll have to make some great advances in the next two years progressoid Mar 2013 #44

Not Barack Obama. Unless you want a repub president... onehandle Mar 2013 #74

well, I was not one of them. Or in 2007 cali Mar 2013 #88

There were many Democrats, including myself, saying the OPPOSITE PennsylvaniaMatt Mar 2013 #112

I like Elizabeth Warren, Pararescue Mar 2013 #2

Elizabeth Warren as President, Howard Dean as head of Democratic Party. (nt) NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #3

Seconded n/t Mira Mar 2013 #89

I voted for Elizabethg pennylane100 Mar 2013 #4

Other: LWolf Mar 2013 #5

Any suggestions? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #6

I don't have any particular individuals in mind. LWolf Mar 2013 #12

Thanks for the list. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #14

Maxine Waters? name not needed Mar 2013 #45

That would assume that the Dem Establishment wouldn't marginalize and ridicule them Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #65

As much as I like & admire Elizabeth I don't think she could win the 2016 election.... Little Star Mar 2013 #7

Hillary is not the right age. She tires easily and will tire JDPriestly Mar 2013 #108

Jeb Bush just flip-flopped on immigration reform, truebluegreen Mar 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Mar 2013 #115

Dennis Rodman. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #8

Isn't he running in North Korea? ProSense Mar 2013 #11

Bwhahaha! babylonsister Mar 2013 #41

He could be his own First Lady! DJ13 Mar 2013 #54

n/t Frosty1 Mar 2013 #104

]"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #10

One thing I have learned from history... Lasher Mar 2013 #113

Hillary will give the Republicans hell gravity Mar 2013 #13

Do you have examples of Hillary giving the GOP hell when she was a senator? blm Mar 2013 #16

I can't think of any... fadedrose Mar 2013 #37

exactly...it's all MYTH that some Dems have learned to repeat unquestioningly. blm Mar 2013 #60

At the Benghazi hearing... fadedrose Mar 2013 #38

Johnson, the Republican tea party guy who beat Feingold karynnj Mar 2013 #102

It was a congressman that I was thinking of, not a Senator... fadedrose Mar 2013 #117

I'm going to wait for 2016 AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #15

Sensible? ProSense Mar 2013 #27

Not Hillary or any other 3rd Way Democrat. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #17

I'm with you whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #20

Schweitzer? O'Malley? Tester? Hassan? Recursion Mar 2013 #19

What a horribly limited list. I doubt it will be any one of those three 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #21

Hence: Other ProSense Mar 2013 #23

Electing Hillary would be a continuation of the current problems. RC Mar 2013 #25

I only wish your poll had asked who do you think has the best shot of winning instead of... Little Star Mar 2013 #30

We should look at Congressman Xavier Becerra. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #109

The good news is we have babylonsister Mar 2013 #42

Elizabeth Warren doesn't have the depth of experience as does Hillary RKP5637 Mar 2013 #26

That puts Elizabeth Warren at an advantage. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #110

YOU, ProSense! Jumpin Jack Fletch Mar 2013 #28

ProSense 2016 ProSense Mar 2013 #29

No Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker duffyduff Mar 2013 #32

Richard Trumka for Prez, Paul Krugman for VP, Elizabeth Warren for Senate MAJORITY leader JaneyVee Mar 2013 #33

Here are the current Democratic Governors -- mostly they are WTF? FarCenter Mar 2013 #34

Here are the current Senators - a fine collection of inexperience and has-beens. FarCenter Mar 2013 #35

A couple bright lights on that list: Jim Lane Mar 2013 #50

Sherrod Brown is great for those of us who follow politics, JDPriestly Mar 2013 #111

Go, Leahy! Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #53

Not a fan of Democrats? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #43

That's kind of sad. Jerry Brown 2016: "He Must Have Exhaled By Now"? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #51

Jeff Merkley would be fine with me, thanks. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #36

Not Hillary Clinton roxy1234 Mar 2013 #39

If there's any hope of preserving the progress made over the past four years, name not needed Mar 2013 #46

Dennis Kucinich. flvegan Mar 2013 #47

Kucinich also won't work for the electorate. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #77

Lydia the Tatooed Lady will do if she's running against the 2016 Republican nominee Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #48

UNREC brooklynite Mar 2013 #49

Your additions would be welcomed. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #78

Andrew Cuomo, Martin O'Malley, Brian Schweitzer and Joe Biden are all considering runs. brooklynite Mar 2013 #86

Any opinions you'd like to share on that roster? Or in general? Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #97

Hillary 2016 & 2020. Lizzie 2024 & 2028 Rochester Mar 2013 #52

Warren would be too old by then to be considered. Beacool Mar 2013 #67

Obviously the person who can beat any republican crook who runs. jonthebru Mar 2013 #55

We need to see what Warren DOES before getting all twitterpainted Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #56

"Twitterpainted"? ProSense Mar 2013 #58

Here you go Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #59

I don't think that's going to change anyone's mind about Warren. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #61

I don't WANT to change anyone's mind about Warren Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #62

So ProSense Mar 2013 #63

Fair questions Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #75

Wait ProSense Mar 2013 #80

First Lady, Senator, Sec State, international respect ... that's one hell of a resume. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #90

So you ProSense Mar 2013 #98

No. But I don't want to get into it right now. Perhaps another day n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #100

More popular with who? Beacool Mar 2013 #68

coke and pepsi are pretty popular too, but are they good for you? n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #91

Well, look who showed up? Beacool Mar 2013 #92

I was about to say the same! We seem to like the same parties. Whisp Mar 2013 #94

Nonsense. Beacool Mar 2013 #96

for such a strong and popular SoS in all of known and unknown history Whisp Mar 2013 #99

Elizabeth Warren in 2016 is nothing more than a LW fantasy. Beacool Mar 2013 #64

Does that make Hillary a RW fantasy? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #66

No, it makes her a center/left Democrat. Beacool Mar 2013 #69

That's ProSense Mar 2013 #70

No, it isn't. Beacool Mar 2013 #71

Well, ProSense Mar 2013 #73

Whatever.......... Beacool Mar 2013 #81

Gee, ProSense Mar 2013 #83

Please don't insult the Presdent by saying he is the same as a Clinton. Whisp Mar 2013 #106

That sentence works both ways, sweetie. Beacool Mar 2013 #107

I'd like to see Dpm12 Mar 2013 #72

Will bookmark JustAnotherGen Mar 2013 #76

Whoever "should", who "will" is those who show up at their precinct meetings Recursion Mar 2013 #79

Warren is the Best fredamae Mar 2013 #82

And Gerrymandering-The Fix fredamae Mar 2013 #85

At this point the best chance to avoid yet another moderate republican is a celebrity. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #84

I think we should amend the Constitution to.. 99Forever Mar 2013 #87

Karen Lewis Enrique Mar 2013 #93

Patty Murray is one to watch, Schweitzer too Whisp Mar 2013 #95

Too soon to call. bluedigger Mar 2013 #101

Richard Trumka AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #103

Hillary45/Janet Napolitano or Hillary45/Biden or Hillary45/Jerry Brown graham4anything Mar 2013 #105

I'll say it again, Warren/Grayson 2016! truebluegreen Mar 2013 #116

Howard Dean DEFINITELY needs to be brought back in from the cold derby378 Mar 2013 #118

I have no love lost for Dean. Beacool Mar 2013 #119