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Ken Burch

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41. You're right that it's about much, much more than him.

Sun Mar 3, 2013, 11:43 PM

Mar 2013

Of course, even without sweeping powers, everything a benevolent president does can be swept away by a U.S.-backed coup(see Chile, 1973).

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If you hate Hugo Chavez, then FIGHT what created him-U.S. imperialism in the Americas. [View all] Ken Burch Mar 2013 OP

It wasn't just Chavez in Venezuela Tempest Mar 2013 #1

Morales and Vasquez(and also Correa of Ecuador) are hated by the same people who hate Chavez. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #2

Damn, I forgot Correa. Tempest Mar 2013 #4

Ding ding we have a winner malaise Mar 2013 #25

I greatly admire him HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Mar 2013 #7

Glad to hear it. If you get that, you aren't the sort of person this thread is aimed at. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #10

But I don't hate him. He is the democratically elected President of I Cant Dance Mar 2013 #5

Good. This isn't aimed at you. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #8

The best thing anyone could do who feels deep rancor is to actually learn LatAm history. Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #6

And thank you, Judi, for fighting the good fight here for such a long time. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #9

So, our first step is...what now? nt Deep13 Mar 2013 #11

1) Learn the history if you don't know it. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #13

Sure, I accept all that. Deep13 Mar 2013 #23

No, but the action follows the thought. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #29

Those who hate Chavez probably think we should just get a bigger stick. reformist2 Mar 2013 #12

A lot of Americans just mindlessly repeat what they hear and see in the media Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #14

And many Americans who only care about democracy inside the US truebluegreen Mar 2013 #26

For them "democracy" means "capitalism". Ken Burch Mar 2013 #27

I have no problem with Chavez, I have a Lot of problems with some U.S. warmongering shitbags. Whisp Mar 2013 #15

Exactly so. From the "Banana Wars" of the late 19th - early 20th centuries through our despicable Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #16

anyone who smells sulphur when speaking of Bush the Lesser is okay in my books. n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #17

You are a donkey, Mr Danger Brother Buzz Mar 2013 #18

He is even more disgusted with Bush than me upi402 Mar 2013 #31

If you hate Chavez and Morales, you have bought into the Cleita Mar 2013 #19

America's record in central and south America is dismal, for sure . . . But: MrModerate Mar 2013 #20

"he wanted to, eventually, do to his neighbors what Hitler did to his"? Ken Burch Mar 2013 #28

No, not the lampshade part . . . MrModerate Mar 2013 #32

I'm not sure I'd call it a "hegemony"-Chavez' idea was more like an anti-imperialist alliance. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #33

No wonder cartach Mar 2013 #21

This time of the year in New England, catnhatnh Mar 2013 #22

We can't fund the arts in schools, they are frivolous. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #24

We murder their elected leaders upi402 Mar 2013 #30

Promote positive, stable institutions and defund the militaries. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #34

Good thoughts. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #36

It's about a lot more than Chavez--essentially a class struggle. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #40

You're right that it's about much, much more than him. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #41

True that. My worry isn't the USG getting involved so much as geek tragedy Mar 2013 #42

Both will, for both are deeply intertwined. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #43

I teach Latin American history for a living. a la izquierda Mar 2013 #35

Good for you. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #37

Thanks... a la izquierda Mar 2013 #38

We like to think that we are free from history. Ken Burch Mar 2013 #39