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57. of course statehouse politics counts. duh

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 08:22 AM

Mar 2013

it's engaging in the mechanics of a campaign. It's getting out there amongst voters. It's being involved in the nitty gritty of politics. It counts a helll of a lot.

I hate to break this to you, hon, but being a scholar doesn't count for shit in politics. Not when it comes to the electorate and the largely anti intellectual streak in this country that's a mile wide.

Warren is not a natural when it comes to politicking and she doesn't have much experience with it and she sure as shit doesn't have the coalitions behind her that you need to mount a successful national campaign.

This is like ABC stuff. It's duh stuff. It's as fucking basic as it gets.

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Who should lead the Democratic Party in 2016 [View all] ProSense Mar 2013 OP

Not Elizabeth Warren. cali Mar 2013 #1

bingo Little Star Mar 2013 #9

Um... are you saying whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #18

Uh, no. Not saying that at all. Saying she is a) not an experienced politician cali Mar 2013 #22

Ah I see... whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #24

I can duffyduff Mar 2013 #31

I've known nationally-recognized scholars who would make piss-poor Presidents. winter is coming Mar 2013 #40

of course statehouse politics counts. duh cali Mar 2013 #57

Yeah, she'll have to make some great advances in the next two years progressoid Mar 2013 #44

Not Barack Obama. Unless you want a repub president... onehandle Mar 2013 #74

well, I was not one of them. Or in 2007 cali Mar 2013 #88

There were many Democrats, including myself, saying the OPPOSITE PennsylvaniaMatt Mar 2013 #112

I like Elizabeth Warren, Pararescue Mar 2013 #2

Elizabeth Warren as President, Howard Dean as head of Democratic Party. (nt) NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #3

Seconded n/t Mira Mar 2013 #89

I voted for Elizabethg pennylane100 Mar 2013 #4

Other: LWolf Mar 2013 #5

Any suggestions? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #6

I don't have any particular individuals in mind. LWolf Mar 2013 #12

Thanks for the list. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #14

Maxine Waters? name not needed Mar 2013 #45

That would assume that the Dem Establishment wouldn't marginalize and ridicule them Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #65

As much as I like & admire Elizabeth I don't think she could win the 2016 election.... Little Star Mar 2013 #7

Hillary is not the right age. She tires easily and will tire JDPriestly Mar 2013 #108

Jeb Bush just flip-flopped on immigration reform, truebluegreen Mar 2013 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Mar 2013 #115

Dennis Rodman. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #8

Isn't he running in North Korea? ProSense Mar 2013 #11

Bwhahaha! babylonsister Mar 2013 #41

He could be his own First Lady! DJ13 Mar 2013 #54

n/t Frosty1 Mar 2013 #104

]"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #10

One thing I have learned from history... Lasher Mar 2013 #113

Hillary will give the Republicans hell gravity Mar 2013 #13

Do you have examples of Hillary giving the GOP hell when she was a senator? blm Mar 2013 #16

I can't think of any... fadedrose Mar 2013 #37

exactly...it's all MYTH that some Dems have learned to repeat unquestioningly. blm Mar 2013 #60

At the Benghazi hearing... fadedrose Mar 2013 #38

Johnson, the Republican tea party guy who beat Feingold karynnj Mar 2013 #102

It was a congressman that I was thinking of, not a Senator... fadedrose Mar 2013 #117

I'm going to wait for 2016 AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #15

Sensible? ProSense Mar 2013 #27

Not Hillary or any other 3rd Way Democrat. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #17

I'm with you whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #20

Schweitzer? O'Malley? Tester? Hassan? Recursion Mar 2013 #19

What a horribly limited list. I doubt it will be any one of those three 1-Old-Man Mar 2013 #21

Hence: Other ProSense Mar 2013 #23

Electing Hillary would be a continuation of the current problems. RC Mar 2013 #25

I only wish your poll had asked who do you think has the best shot of winning instead of... Little Star Mar 2013 #30

We should look at Congressman Xavier Becerra. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #109

The good news is we have babylonsister Mar 2013 #42

Elizabeth Warren doesn't have the depth of experience as does Hillary RKP5637 Mar 2013 #26

That puts Elizabeth Warren at an advantage. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #110

YOU, ProSense! Jumpin Jack Fletch Mar 2013 #28

ProSense 2016 ProSense Mar 2013 #29

No Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker duffyduff Mar 2013 #32

Richard Trumka for Prez, Paul Krugman for VP, Elizabeth Warren for Senate MAJORITY leader JaneyVee Mar 2013 #33

Here are the current Democratic Governors -- mostly they are WTF? FarCenter Mar 2013 #34

Here are the current Senators - a fine collection of inexperience and has-beens. FarCenter Mar 2013 #35

A couple bright lights on that list: Jim Lane Mar 2013 #50

Sherrod Brown is great for those of us who follow politics, JDPriestly Mar 2013 #111

Go, Leahy! Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #53

Not a fan of Democrats? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #43

That's kind of sad. Jerry Brown 2016: "He Must Have Exhaled By Now"? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #51

Jeff Merkley would be fine with me, thanks. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #36

Not Hillary Clinton roxy1234 Mar 2013 #39

If there's any hope of preserving the progress made over the past four years, name not needed Mar 2013 #46

Dennis Kucinich. flvegan Mar 2013 #47

Kucinich also won't work for the electorate. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #77

Lydia the Tatooed Lady will do if she's running against the 2016 Republican nominee Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #48

UNREC brooklynite Mar 2013 #49

Your additions would be welcomed. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #78

Andrew Cuomo, Martin O'Malley, Brian Schweitzer and Joe Biden are all considering runs. brooklynite Mar 2013 #86

Any opinions you'd like to share on that roster? Or in general? Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #97

Hillary 2016 & 2020. Lizzie 2024 & 2028 Rochester Mar 2013 #52

Warren would be too old by then to be considered. Beacool Mar 2013 #67

Obviously the person who can beat any republican crook who runs. jonthebru Mar 2013 #55

We need to see what Warren DOES before getting all twitterpainted Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #56

"Twitterpainted"? ProSense Mar 2013 #58

Here you go Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #59

I don't think that's going to change anyone's mind about Warren. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #61

I don't WANT to change anyone's mind about Warren Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #62

So ProSense Mar 2013 #63

Fair questions Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #75

Wait ProSense Mar 2013 #80

First Lady, Senator, Sec State, international respect ... that's one hell of a resume. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #90

So you ProSense Mar 2013 #98

No. But I don't want to get into it right now. Perhaps another day n/t Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #100

More popular with who? Beacool Mar 2013 #68

coke and pepsi are pretty popular too, but are they good for you? n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #91

Well, look who showed up? Beacool Mar 2013 #92

I was about to say the same! We seem to like the same parties. Whisp Mar 2013 #94

Nonsense. Beacool Mar 2013 #96

for such a strong and popular SoS in all of known and unknown history Whisp Mar 2013 #99

Elizabeth Warren in 2016 is nothing more than a LW fantasy. Beacool Mar 2013 #64

Does that make Hillary a RW fantasy? n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #66

No, it makes her a center/left Democrat. Beacool Mar 2013 #69

That's ProSense Mar 2013 #70

No, it isn't. Beacool Mar 2013 #71

Well, ProSense Mar 2013 #73

Whatever.......... Beacool Mar 2013 #81

Gee, ProSense Mar 2013 #83

Please don't insult the Presdent by saying he is the same as a Clinton. Whisp Mar 2013 #106

That sentence works both ways, sweetie. Beacool Mar 2013 #107

I'd like to see Dpm12 Mar 2013 #72

Will bookmark JustAnotherGen Mar 2013 #76

Whoever "should", who "will" is those who show up at their precinct meetings Recursion Mar 2013 #79

Warren is the Best fredamae Mar 2013 #82

And Gerrymandering-The Fix fredamae Mar 2013 #85

At this point the best chance to avoid yet another moderate republican is a celebrity. Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #84

I think we should amend the Constitution to.. 99Forever Mar 2013 #87

Karen Lewis Enrique Mar 2013 #93

Patty Murray is one to watch, Schweitzer too Whisp Mar 2013 #95

Too soon to call. bluedigger Mar 2013 #101

Richard Trumka AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #103

Hillary45/Janet Napolitano or Hillary45/Biden or Hillary45/Jerry Brown graham4anything Mar 2013 #105

I'll say it again, Warren/Grayson 2016! truebluegreen Mar 2013 #116

Howard Dean DEFINITELY needs to be brought back in from the cold derby378 Mar 2013 #118

I have no love lost for Dean. Beacool Mar 2013 #119