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bvar22

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72. Our official party position....

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 02:36 PM

Mar 2013

is WAS that you do not touch Social Security. EVER. It's the third rail.
That has all changed now.
The precedent has been established.
We can't go back.

"Entitlements" will NOW be On-the-Table in every future Budget negotiation,
until it is GONE.

It took a Nixon to go to China.

You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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Reuters: Great Betrayal Is In Play; Obama Puts Medicare & Soc Sec "Compromises" On Table [View all] kpete Mar 2013 OP

Before messing with our pre-paid "entitlements," LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #1

Obama can't do that. Congress can. randome Mar 2013 #9

Maybe....Maybe not, but as other Presidents have shown, bvar22 Mar 2013 #70

Soc. Sec is secure for 30 yrs...why do anything like they are talking about it's not necessary. SugarShack Mar 2013 #60

The true entitlements are the Pentagon and the Defense Department and the Banking system SugarShack Mar 2013 #80

If President Obama wants it... 99Forever Mar 2013 #2

+1,000 djean111 Mar 2013 #11

I'm sorry Djean... 99Forever Mar 2013 #32

That is "f%#king retard" dirty hippies to you, sir. GoneFishin Mar 2013 #36

I must have forgotten. 99Forever Mar 2013 #44

True. True. True. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #33

He wants to cut social programs so he can spend more on the military. Lasher Mar 2013 #3

they all do it. we dont have "two" parties anymore villager Mar 2013 #5

Bologna Frosty1 Mar 2013 #56

Gospel Lasher Mar 2013 #89

Throwing the weak and vulnerable under the bus to get a deal. That's my POTUS!!!111!!!1 forestpath Mar 2013 #4

I need the president to explain to me what SS has to do with the budget Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #6

^^^this^^^ backtoblue Mar 2013 #29

Well, he's consistent, you've got to give him that. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #7

No surpise here he offered up social security and medicare a long time ago bowens43 Mar 2013 #8

Talk about ProSense Mar 2013 #10

In that case he should stand up and advocate strongly against all such cuts. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #12

He can do NOTHING without GOP help in the House. Nothing. randome Mar 2013 #16

First it shows him making that offer. That image remains. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #19

I think you're right that he should be past this stage of not speaking his mind. randome Mar 2013 #21

Republicans will double-down on anything that comes out of his mouth. At this point it's like patrice Mar 2013 #26

So, please tell us, precisely what is the President's proposal. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #48

I agree 100%. airplaneman Mar 2013 #59

Great post! - nt dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #85

worthy of its own thread Skittles Mar 2013 #98

How hard ProSense Mar 2013 #104

He's been maneuvering and pushing for these cuts since very early in his first term. Marr Mar 2013 #13

Not at the 08 campaign event I was at Skink Mar 2013 #17

I'm not talking about public rhetoric-- words are free. Marr Mar 2013 #24

Yeah, Republicans had absolutely nothing to do with that, nor to do with whatever portion of that patrice Mar 2013 #46

You'll also recall he told the world, in his first Inaugural: Myrina Mar 2013 #45

Jesus wept. AzDar Mar 2013 #14

We wept with Jesus. 840high Mar 2013 #49

OH HELL NO! JaneyVee Mar 2013 #15

Is there no chance that it's a bluff? sadbear Mar 2013 #18

I think it could be a bluff. randome Mar 2013 #20

I, too, think this may be the case. sadbear Mar 2013 #23

Looks that way to me, too. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #86

No, there is no bluff here Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #62

Our official party position.... bvar22 Mar 2013 #72

Yes. That was my point Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #79

Yes. I know. bvar22 Mar 2013 #90

Unhappy to agree with you. 840high Mar 2013 #96

"reform" and "cut" are not synonymous. I refuse to panic. magical thyme Mar 2013 #22

this. --^-- BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #30

Obama appointed Tim Geithner to his cabinet, his moist trusted advisers as Secretary of Treasure JDPriestly Mar 2013 #54

Ohio has some programs to help elderly people "figure out" money Kolesar Mar 2013 #101

Thanks. She used to go to the library, but it is too difficult for her JDPriestly Mar 2013 #110

JD, it's been on my mind to reply for weeks now BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #105

Obama also appointed the Great Larry Summers - I refuse to panic! kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #108

+1 DCBob Mar 2013 #34

I agree ...Reuters ...and AP are becoming worthless for undistorted news. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #39

The powers that be are upset that Obama has a bunch of supporters out there.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #76

Well there are plenty of people waking up to how we are being played by corporate interests... L0oniX Mar 2013 #84

I'm not blind to Obama being too willing to compromise... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #87

How do you know that Reuters is putting words in Obama's mouth? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #53

no direct quote of headline words uponit7771 Mar 2013 #58

****DING DING DING POST OF THE THREAD**** uponit7771 Mar 2013 #57

I have the same reaction as you do. CTyankee Mar 2013 #69

In July through August 2011 he went on a campaign to sell the cuts as part of a "grand bargain". eomer Mar 2013 #77

cutting expenses is not the same thing as cutting benefits magical thyme Mar 2013 #100

He was clearly talking about cutting benefits. eomer Mar 2013 #103

Thank you!!!! GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #88

Come on! You're ruining the fun of being righteously pissed off and indignant.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #99

Well, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship jsr Mar 2013 #25

Instead of complaining on a website. iandhr Mar 2013 #27

NEWS FLASH datasuspect Mar 2013 #37

"Instead of" should be "in addition to" dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #91

Got this from CREDO this morning Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2013 #28

Could you provide a link to "letter" to sign? Thanks. glinda Mar 2013 #31

Found the petition. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #41

Thanks, UnrepentantLiberal Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2013 #64

Lesson: Be as greedy and cut throat as you can. You won't survive in your old age without money. L0oniX Mar 2013 #35

There's an easy way for Obama to squelch the worry about cuts. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #38

"Hey guys, guys! Didn't you see I already caved? It's on my web page! Come on!" librechik Mar 2013 #40

The apples and oranges association between the sequester and 'entightlements' blackspade Mar 2013 #42

In return for what? treestar Mar 2013 #43

"costs of administration"? Out of date systems ARE parasites throughout our economy. & Out of date patrice Mar 2013 #51

Yeah I see no problem with that treestar Mar 2013 #55

This is all a set up. They felt they had to manufacture this crisis Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #47

Obama's nominee for budget director = advisor to Pete Peterson foundation (anti-SS) HiPointDem Mar 2013 #50

Add to the list G_j Mar 2013 #63

So sorry ann--- Mar 2013 #52

To be fair the Clown Car is the next party over Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #61

Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #68

Why would ann--- Mar 2013 #107

I just off the phone to the Vice-Presidents off ice and they said that SS and Medicare ARE NOT Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #65

So did you ask them to issue a public denial on behalf of the President? MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #66

+1. who's taken over the office of the president and why are they saying such terrible things HiPointDem Mar 2013 #67

I did not .......... you can if you like 202-224-2424 vice-president Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #71

I wouldn't waste my time. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #93

Of all the numbers I have called in the federal government Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #95

Aw, hell. I just confirmed my latest purchase from PitchforksRUs. winter is coming Mar 2013 #75

Did you see my sig line?? Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #92

LOL, no. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #94

YAY! Republicans on all sides now. kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #73

"if...Republicans...were willing to have tax reform that raises revenues to lower the deficit..." pampango Mar 2013 #74

How that makes him look good to anyone is a headscratcher. nt eilen Mar 2013 #97

LOL, isn't that the truth Oilwellian Mar 2013 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author damnedifIknow Mar 2013 #78

A reminder before we forget... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #81

Wow what a shocking surprise. Ganja Ninja Mar 2013 #82

Don't worry. The GOP will reject everything to keep their corporate loopholes. Zen Democrat Mar 2013 #83

What kind of strange definition of "good" do you have. Looks like shit, at best, to me. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #106

kick woo me with science Mar 2013 #102

This is almost ten days old. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #109

Has there been a retraction since then? nt Zorra Mar 2013 #111