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Donald Ian Rankin

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79. At a guess? Gang badges.

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 04:39 PM

Mar 2013

I don't think there's any rational underlying philosophical thread that connects support or opposition for higher taxation, looser immigration control, more health-care spending, less defence spending, gay marriage, etc.

I think that there are - and always have been, two "gangs" in American politics; the issues they adopts as badges have varied over time and are basically secondary. People adopt a gang for a variety of reasons, largely irrational, and then accept and internalize the justifications for that gang's totem positions, and convince themselves that they hold those views for rational reasons.

Currently, the more macho of the two gangs in the USA is the Republicans, and hence they attract the votes of more men, and the Democrats attract the votes of more women. The stances on issues are only secondary.

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If men could get pregnant [View all] SheilaT Mar 2013 OP

If men could get pregnant, birth control would come out of gumball machines. Drunken Irishman Mar 2013 #1

If men could get pregnant... Bonobo Mar 2013 #2

That's what I always remind people when they say this too. TheManInTheMac Mar 2013 #41

yes, they'd be an underclass based on the ability/ willingness of some to reproduce. bettyellen Mar 2013 #69

If men could get pregnant then the gender roles would be opposite. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #3

those fundy women are already trying to take BainsBane Mar 2013 #16

There would be only one baby born and it would be a male Warpy Mar 2013 #4

yes, because men are naturally such crappy parents. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #12

"Then he'd turn it over to a passing woman to raise." ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #43

Trolling for reactions? Sounds like an extremely backwards attitude. Dash87 Mar 2013 #47

they'd only have one baby Skittles Mar 2013 #5

that would be great nt Kalidurga Mar 2013 #6

I think the question you'd have to answer first is davidpdx Mar 2013 #7

If Men Could Get Pregnant lib87 Mar 2013 #8

and daycare would be free SoCalDem Mar 2013 #9

If men could get pregnant TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #10

"Discuss among yourselves." Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #11

In that case, women AND men would be part of the bs anti-choice movement seeking to outlaw abortion. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #13

the population would likely decline. BainsBane Mar 2013 #14

Thank you for making it ever so slightly less sexist. Bonobo Mar 2013 #17

Why is it hateful? BainsBane Mar 2013 #18

I'm not sure I can help you see why it is hateful and offensive, but I'll try. Once. Bonobo Mar 2013 #20

that is not what I said BainsBane Mar 2013 #22

OK then... Bonobo Mar 2013 #26

I never said all men. Read more closely. BainsBane Mar 2013 #28

if you have evidence of men giving birth BainsBane Mar 2013 #19

not quite the same, but... handmade34 Mar 2013 #30

why is reading so burdonsome for you? BainsBane Mar 2013 #32

Hypocrite. theKed Mar 2013 #37

If extraterrestrials exist quinnox Mar 2013 #15

Abortions would be available at every convenience store. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #21

watch out BainsBane Mar 2013 #23

I'll add that to the list of things I've been called at one time or another. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #24

that's impressive BainsBane Mar 2013 #25

I've been cussed in English, Spanish, German, Italian, Turkish and Russian. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #27

Can you understand them all? BainsBane Mar 2013 #29

Enough to get by. My native languages are German(Viennese dialect) and English. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #31

I saw that you're in Austin BainsBane Mar 2013 #33

I highly doubt that kdmorris Mar 2013 #34

+1 nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #36

"This entire thread is pretty sexist" Major Nikon Mar 2013 #38

But it must have been approved by male mod posing as a woman...???? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2013 #53

+1 n/t one_voice Mar 2013 #49

You'd have a point if the majority of women were anti-choice jeff47 Mar 2013 #54

Seems pretty evenly split to me... kdmorris Mar 2013 #57

Only if you stop reading at the top line. jeff47 Mar 2013 #58

No. It isn't an abstract problem for men. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #59

At this point, I guess we just have to agree to disagree. kdmorris Mar 2013 #62

I really don't understand what you're trying to say here. jeff47 Mar 2013 #73

To clarify kdmorris Mar 2013 #75

Women also show up to vote in greater numbers than men do Major Nikon Mar 2013 #63

Sure, that's why women dominate elected office, and make as much money as men. jeff47 Mar 2013 #71

Equal opportunity does not necessarily mean equal outcomes Major Nikon Mar 2013 #74

Don't know if it would be a sacrament. Kath1 Mar 2013 #35

No, if men could get pregnant, women would have banned abortion for millennia Recursion Mar 2013 #39

You watch PBS, don't you? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #40

EXACTLY right MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #42

Obviously, we'll never know. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #44

Blatant sexism. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #45

If men could get pregnant; hyperbole would cease to exist... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #46

It's nice to encounter the lessons of modern history HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #48

If we could get pregnant there would be drive thru abortion clinics. Initech Mar 2013 #50

sad, but true frankieallen Mar 2013 #51

I miss Flo Kennedy Solly Mack Mar 2013 #52

Who pipi_k Mar 2013 #55

Results of an alert on the OP davidthegnome Mar 2013 #56

I agree with the OP though LittleBlue Mar 2013 #61

It's just another example of how sexism directed at one gender almost always gets a pass here Major Nikon Mar 2013 #66

Agreed LittleBlue Mar 2013 #60

I do appreciate all the responses. SheilaT Mar 2013 #64

In this scenario, if women can get pregnant too treestar Mar 2013 #65

Evidence suggests otherwise: men are more pro-choice than women. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #67

I'm not sure that's true, but it is pretty close Major Nikon Mar 2013 #68

Those men sure aren't running state governments in IN, VA, MI, KS, OK, SD, etc., etc., etc. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #76

Well, there's this little thing called the nineteenth amendment that you may have heard of... Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #77

Then why don't all these abortion rights supporting men vote for prochoice candidates MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #78

At a guess? Gang badges. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2013 #79

Keep digging that hole. BTW, according to this recent Gallup Poll, MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #80

If the dominant sex felix_numinous Mar 2013 #70

...every 7-Eleven would have an abortion clinic. nt Ilsa Mar 2013 #72