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In reply to the discussion: European-style welfare states are lovely! [View all]HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)This sounds like you're about one or two sentences away from saying "WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S HEALTH CARE???"
You know what kinds of people say that a lot, don't you?
You're putting a "freedom of choice" wrapper on the dogshit package of economic Darwinism.
Yeah, keep asserting my "case" is weak. Meanwhile, more Americans will have the "choice" every day whether to be bankrupted by Humana, bankrupted by Cigna or taken to the cleaners by WellPoint, all for the crime of getting sick. 45,000 people EVERY YEAR. FACT. Gee, I guess instead of being covered by the government in a "we" society, I should enjoy the privilege of getting choked by exorbitant costs and financially sodomized by an insurance conglomerate in our great "ME" society. CHILD, PLEASE.
"The argument against government health care isn't really about protection from debt and going bankrupt, so your opinionated first paragraph is moot. " Opinionated . . . right, get back to me when Europe's, Britain's, Scandanavia's and Canada's medical bankruptcies exceed ours and then I'll think about taking you seriously.
Health IS a human right, every human DESERVES that right. If you don't believe in that, that is NOT my problem.
I mean, you don't want to live in a "we" society and think it's all about "you, you, you", that's fine. You thrive on that lil' old island of yours. But understand that selfishness is actually one of the greatest reasons to HAVE Universal Health Care . . . so it will be THERE when you need it the most. That's actually why Otto Von Bismarck first instituted the idea of multi-payer in Germany . . . so the workers would have little incentive to JOIN the Socialists.
Maybe one of the reasons Americans haven't voted for such candidates is that they haven't snapped out of their Reaganite "Soshulized Medicine" brainwashing on the subject since 1962.