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KT2000

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19. we are nearing the end
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 06:04 PM
Mar 2013

of successful medicines with just a few in the pipeline. Having lived billions of years before humans, bacteria are adept at forming resistance. There are many methods employed to disable antibiotics.
The few new drugs are just slightly altered existing antibiotics and none are for Gram-negative bacteria which is harder to treat. Even in the face of this problem, research into antibiotics has fallen. They are even resorting to old antibiotics that were not used plentifully due to the damaging side effects, such as kidney failure.
That is the problem.

Antibiotics were treated as just another tool in the free market but their overuse in factory farms (used to fatten livestack as well as treat infections) and less so in humans, is starting to render them useless.

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Link to an OP in LBN from about a week ago... TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #1
Thanks for the link -- interesting comments on agriculture, etc. FarCenter Mar 2013 #7
Sort of like they are adapting to a new environment. bemildred Mar 2013 #2
Yes, pestilence is going to be our end siligut Mar 2013 #3
Nah, we can evolve too. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #6
bacteria take generations KT2000 Mar 2013 #13
Right, but they won't been able to kill all of us any more than we can kill all of them. bemildred Mar 2013 #14
They will wipe out people KT2000 Mar 2013 #17
Bacteria and viruses mutate. This is nothing new. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #18
we are nearing the end KT2000 Mar 2013 #19
sorry if I don't buy into the doom and gloom liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #23
that is your choice KT2000 Mar 2013 #26
antibiotics are not just used to fatten livestock. It is used to keep diseases from spreading liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #32
Absolutely - the conditions KT2000 Mar 2013 #41
Are you not aware that antibiotics are a quite recent invention? bemildred Mar 2013 #39
We've been around for millions of years liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #42
Exactly. There are billions of us, we cover the planet. It's ridiculous. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #43
Just making the point that we are a resiliant species liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #44
Yes, the greatest living predator, we eat everything. bemildred Mar 2013 #45
Bacteria existed before humans KT2000 Mar 2013 #49
There was a complete sentence KT2000 Mar 2013 #46
OK, I can go along with that. bemildred Mar 2013 #47
I don't use antibiotics when I have a viral infection. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #48
But...evolution doesn't exist. MineralMan Mar 2013 #4
But, but, but! lapislzi Mar 2013 #11
the sad thing is KT2000 Mar 2013 #5
Interesting. And once again population enters the picture. Gregorian Mar 2013 #12
Population or dietary choices? KT2000 Mar 2013 #15
Even sadder? DUers constantly make fun of the JanMichael Mar 2013 #16
I haven't seen DUers make fun of... Blanks Mar 2013 #20
no way to have a progressive conversation on food JanMichael Mar 2013 #21
I haven't been around that long. Blanks Mar 2013 #24
So far, every single person that JanMichael Mar 2013 #30
It's just that a vegan lifestyle requires the most commitment. Blanks Mar 2013 #34
Semantics. I shouldn't have written it that way. Perhaps JanMichael Mar 2013 #37
Subsistence living? GiveMeFreedom Mar 2013 #50
Yes - there are issues, KT2000 Mar 2013 #22
if you want to be vegan, be vegan. I won't tell you to do otherwise. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #25
Please read what I wrote JanMichael Mar 2013 #27
see you are the one responding in attack mode. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #28
"attack mode?" JanMichael Mar 2013 #31
I am a vegetarian, but do not preach to anyone about their dietary choice. RebelOne Mar 2013 #29
congratulations on living such a long life liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #35
Have you seen the documentary 'Forks over Knives'? Blanks Mar 2013 #36
Congratulations! I wasn't JanMichael Mar 2013 #38
wow. You are hostile. You are going on ignore. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #40
Sequestration will help! n/t Earth_First Mar 2013 #8
Is our salvation to be found in genetic engineering? annabanana Mar 2013 #9
They're called "Republicans" Recursion Mar 2013 #10
I heard this has been identified at 200 hospitals. undeterred Mar 2013 #33
Frankly, that isn't bad advice. WinkyDink Mar 2013 #52
Look at it from Wayne Lapierre's position Turbineguy Mar 2013 #51
Bacteria doesn't kill people. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #53
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