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quinnox

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74. yes, neutral, because it is often used by blacks in a friendly way for their buddies

Tue Mar 5, 2013, 07:02 PM

Mar 2013

whereas a white person using it is almost always showing prejudice when they use it. So two different uses, two totally different interpretations.

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When the word 'b*tch' is used an insult, do you perceive it as sexist/misogynist? [View all] redqueen Mar 2013 OP

As a noun, yes. As a verb, no. bluedigger Mar 2013 #1

hi, redqueen. I think it depends cali Mar 2013 #2

Oh no, I don't have a problem with men participating in these discussions. redqueen Mar 2013 #7

I do. I don't perceive it that way when when it is used as a verb MineralMan Mar 2013 #3

I use 'bitchin' all the time. cliffordu Mar 2013 #9

Odd looks? Fancy that... MineralMan Mar 2013 #10

I was gonna mention surfboards...... cliffordu Mar 2013 #13

A few yrs back, my teen kid scolded me for using "spiffy" as he thought he'd thought it up, uppityperson Mar 2013 #42

Depends on the context, it is sort of like the word f*ggot to me. Kurska Mar 2013 #4

Yes, thank you... I agree that among friends that's an entirely different situation. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #12

Depends on context. sadbear Mar 2013 #5

When I hear my lovely Savannah or my sister or mother use it, no. cliffordu Mar 2013 #6

That insult is sexist as well. redqueen Mar 2013 #14

My point was that it's not alerted on around here as far as I can recall. cliffordu Mar 2013 #15

I make no assumptions about what is alerted or how often. redqueen Mar 2013 #18

Yes. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #8

Yes. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #11

No-but this pretty much sums up my thoughts, though some people will be offended no matter what. we can do it Mar 2013 #43

+1 Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #62

No. Because our society no longer widely regards it as such. phleshdef Mar 2013 #16

No, TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #17

I don't see how it can't be, except when used as a verb. I think of that as neutral. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #19

Depends really IMHO The Straight Story Mar 2013 #20

Using a bigoted word and being a bigot are two different things. redqueen Mar 2013 #22

I agree with that The Straight Story Mar 2013 #25

I have a model for insult language that has evolved loyalsister Mar 2013 #21

I'm having a bitch of a time trying to figure out snooper2 Mar 2013 #23

No, but I can understand why some people do LittleBlue Mar 2013 #24

Yes s-cubed Mar 2013 #26

Please note ... Trajan Mar 2013 #27

Please note redqueen Mar 2013 #30

yes, of course it is. n/t Scout Mar 2013 #28

I have a question, and please don't take it the wrong way. MadHound Mar 2013 #29

See post 30. redqueen Mar 2013 #32

And we've had these same sort of threads before, MadHound Mar 2013 #35

Did my thread about the p word erupt into a flamewar? redqueen Mar 2013 #36

It didn't? Are you blind? MadHound Mar 2013 #38

There were three or four people who got into flamey arguments. redqueen Mar 2013 #40

Three or four? MadHound Mar 2013 #45

I suspect they are started in the hopes that the right people will self-immolate. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #47

Every pot has its lid, they say....nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #91

It depends entirely on context tkmorris Mar 2013 #31

Generally, I don't. Hayabusa Mar 2013 #33

I perceive it as an insult Warpy Mar 2013 #34

When someone calls me a "Son of a Bitch" it never strikes me as sexual in any way. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #37

Not necessarily union_maid Mar 2013 #39

Nope, I have frequently called myself a bitch. RebelOne Mar 2013 #41

Female, almost 60, yes of course it is. uppityperson Mar 2013 #44

No way. sagat Mar 2013 #46

If I'm within my own sub-groups (artists, women, LGBTIQ) in our private settings, I'm fine with it myrna minx Mar 2013 #48

Indeed it is, all about the context. redqueen Mar 2013 #49

good point nt BainsBane Mar 2013 #64

I think it's like anything that can be used to be insulting justiceischeap Mar 2013 #50

To me, it's not. Sissyk Mar 2013 #51

When Marsha Blackburn spouts her crap on MSNBC OKNancy Mar 2013 #52

of course it is a sexist, misogynist insult...but noiretextatique Mar 2013 #53

The roots of the insult is sexist, but I see it as a superior/inferior referential RadiationTherapy Mar 2013 #54

Ah, yes... redqueen Mar 2013 #57

I certainly do if it is used to insult or demean anyone. Little Star Mar 2013 #55

Absolutely! marybourg Mar 2013 #56

No, it's so saturated that it's become gender neutral. MrSlayer Mar 2013 #58

Yes, I do. It is also sexist when referring to any generic woman. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #59

Yes, yes I do etherealtruth Mar 2013 #60

Sometimes, yes. MyshkinCommaPrince Mar 2013 #61

Yes, when used as an insult, always BainsBane Mar 2013 #63

Generally speaking, yes. As an insult, or even as a verb, it seems to me that petronius Mar 2013 #65

The one billion times this question was asked on DU .... Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #66

I look at words as being totally neutral quinnox Mar 2013 #67

Indeed? How about the "n" word? Neutral? WinkyDink Mar 2013 #72

yes, neutral, because it is often used by blacks in a friendly way for their buddies quinnox Mar 2013 #74

No. Habibi Mar 2013 #68

Are bitch and prick equivalent?. .I've been known to use both annabanana Mar 2013 #69

They can mean very similar things. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #82

It depends on the context. As a woman, if I (rarely) exclaim, "Sonofabi***!" I don't WinkyDink Mar 2013 #70

Nope. RetroLounge Mar 2013 #71

It's very context specific, with the smaller the audience being the more geek tragedy Mar 2013 #73

It seriously depends. Igel Mar 2013 #75

We need a new word for "annoying, frequently complaining person" FrodosPet Mar 2013 #76

Of course, it's sexist wryter2000 Mar 2013 #77

Yes. blue neen Mar 2013 #78

I don't really. I use it a lot among my friends. Squinch Mar 2013 #79

For me it's subjective jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #80

Yes... absolutely. Steve Pinker's wonderful book, The Stuff Of Thought LanternWaste Mar 2013 #81

No KathieG Mar 2013 #83

I always catch.. one_voice Mar 2013 #84

Can we just get together a list of unsanctioned insults? joeunderdog Mar 2013 #85

it is meant to be sexist/misogynist. however, when I am called a bitch, I look at the person and niyad Mar 2013 #86

I can't say that EVERY time it is, but it can be Taverner Mar 2013 #87

I call people dicks and pricks olddots Mar 2013 #88

For sure. Evoman Mar 2013 #89

This is my favorite post on this thread. redqueen Mar 2013 #90

I have plenty of ego. Evoman Mar 2013 #92