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caseymoz

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19. If a natural resource that falls on your land isn't yours

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:54 AM

Mar 2013

Then what the hell are you allowed to own? A parched acre of dirt, and only the top two feet of that?

He wasn't brought up on charges for environmental damage; he was brought up on charges for hording water a company wanted to horde.

Water is being grabbed worldwide, by soon-to-be monopolies. It's going to turn into big business in a decade. If one guy diverts his water, at least you might expect other people make other decisions. If a monopoly grabs everybody's water, regardless of ownership of the land, then you can expect the fish to die at its whims.

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Because even the Bush family are part of "water grabbing", or "hydraulic empire". Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #1

I remember that ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #3

The Bushes bought some 100,000 acres in Paraguay... KansDem Mar 2013 #44

wait a minute, this is not some guy with a bucket next to his house CreekDog Mar 2013 #2

Its RAINWATER!! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #5

well what are the fish supposed to live in? CreekDog Mar 2013 #12

A person collects water to live ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #16

that guy collected a huge KT2000 Mar 2013 #25

"collects water to live"... stocks it with trout, builds docks for recreational boating Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #31

This guy is a selfish destructive pig who is obstinately hurting his neighbors alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #59

YOu are the one that needs educating dbackjon Mar 2013 #68

If a natural resource that falls on your land isn't yours caseymoz Mar 2013 #19

what does private property care about nature? CreekDog Mar 2013 #21

Clarify maybe? caseymoz Mar 2013 #26

what you do on your property *may* harm the environment CreekDog Mar 2013 #28

A lot more.. sendero Mar 2013 #45

Or punished for making use of the sunlight that hits your property. eom Blanks Mar 2013 #47

Will we still be allowed to collect sunlight for energy needs? nt kelliekat44 Mar 2013 #49

that's next bigtree Mar 2013 #54

are the ponds natural or man made? CreekDog Mar 2013 #35

Your absolutely correct. Live your principles and reject antibiotics when infected as galileoreloaded Mar 2013 #63

No I won't. If you want to respond properly --you have to consider the context CreekDog Mar 2013 #66

Thanks Creek. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #48

maddening! grasswire Mar 2013 #4

That one took me a moment. OnyxCollie Mar 2013 #34

I don't know about Mexico but Bechtel tried it in Bolivia and it didn't go over well at all Catherina Mar 2013 #6

been out of touch for 5 years - you are correct about Bechtel ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #10

+10,000 Catherina Mar 2013 #13

"we've been so thoroughly conditioned to bow down to the almighty god of profit. " ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #14

Oh, don't worry-- we'll *all* be outraged again once there's a Republican president. /nt Marr Mar 2013 #18

It is a horried state of reality. Knightraven Mar 2013 #7

What this guy was doing was damming in a watershed JCMach1 Mar 2013 #8

Read the other links ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #11

If you wanted to make a serious point dbackjon Mar 2013 #70

Depending on his set-up, it might be a violation of health regulations. wickerwoman Mar 2013 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2013 #15

Actually, it's still illegal. Robb Mar 2013 #64

Can you sue the owner of the rainwater Downwinder Mar 2013 #17

Well, - that'd be God or whatever spirits one believes in ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #20

Excellent question. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #24

I was just wondering. Downwinder Mar 2013 #27

Hmm.. goes against what many architects are practicing these days. crazy homeless guy Mar 2013 #22

i have a couple of issues with this OP, and no, I'm not corporate CreekDog Mar 2013 #23

It's no coincidence that it's all right wing sources for the Gary Harrington bargle Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #30

Heres a question davidthegnome Mar 2013 #29

how can we have any useful discussion if people won't argue rationally here? CreekDog Mar 2013 #32

If we don't allow companies the freedom to emit toxic fumes, next we'll outlaw FARTING! Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #33

You do realize I was joking, right? davidthegnome Mar 2013 #37

then the government can't regulate to protect the environment CreekDog Mar 2013 #40

Not my point at all. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #55

Reductio ad absurdum demwing Mar 2013 #57

I didn't say that. I said if it can't be regulated by the government, the environment can't... CreekDog Mar 2013 #65

What? That's like saying when you stub your toe all toes now need to be Javaman Mar 2013 #72

Wow. In my town, which is NW Indiana, there are rain barrels at the town hall with brochures and kas125 Mar 2013 #36

Yikes! When I was a kid, I used to collect rain water for my pet frogs... Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #38

I've researched sustainable, off-the-grid living justiceischeap Mar 2013 #39

Chevron and Wal Mart want to be able to do whatever they want CreekDog Mar 2013 #41

I'm the last to say we need to stop environmental laws justiceischeap Mar 2013 #43

Pretty soon, Americans might start getting charged just for breathing. Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #42

I didn't follow all the links but I did read some madokie Mar 2013 #46

For some reason, this 3-year-old story gets reposted every few months Recursion Mar 2013 #50

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #61

This. Earth_First Mar 2013 #71

Ahhhhh, naturalnews... Scootaloo Mar 2013 #51

This thread is bullshit - the guy diverted water when he had no legal rights to do so hatrack Mar 2013 #52

Well as long as I can keep my 2 empty big tubs for rain water next to my home veggie garden. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #53

We had multiple threads on his case last summer. Here's one: struggle4progress Mar 2013 #56

Funny how many DUers missed the point then, too... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #62

Google the rainfall in that area DiverDave Mar 2013 #58

No, it doesn't rain all the time there - December's wettest at 3.5", but summer rainfall is minimal hatrack Mar 2013 #69

A little of Topic but 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #60

Naturalnews... SidDithers Mar 2013 #67

Huh? So my bird baths and wheel barrow are illegal? How about the garden? talkingmime Mar 2013 #73

I recced this OP. Now I wish I could unrec it. It's bullshit. Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #74