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In reply to the discussion: Other than the European theatre of World War II, can you name any MAJOR examples [View all]green for victory
(591 posts)48. "Clinton tried to work within the International Community" is false
in regards to the 78 day bombing of Serbia.
He had congressional approval but said "there wasn't time" to seek UN approval. No UN approval for the bombing was ever granted. No evidence of genocide was found by the FBI and UN investigators after the war. You can verify all of that easily.
What many "liberals" don't know about the 78 day bombing of Serbia was that it was the first PNAC project.
Don't believe me. Click the following link:
http://newamericancentury.org/balkans.htm

Kosovo was a precedent for Iraq and Libya.
The reasons are explained here:
Backing up Globalization with Military Might
The U.S. and its NATO underlings undoubtedly will be vastly emboldened by their "success" in ensconcing themselves in Kosovo, Bosnia and the other remnants of YugoslaviaCroatia, Slovenia and Macedonia. We can expect rapid steps to further fragment the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (FRY). We can also expect the new mission of nuclear-armed NATO intervening over so-called "humanitarian concerns" against sovereign nationsto be implemented elsewhere, with great speed, especially in the Caspian Sea/Caucuses areas of the former Soviet Union.
Burgeoning military alliances, with the U.S. at the helm, are likely to try intervening in a similar way against North Korea, China any country refusing to be a "New World Order" colony by allowing its wealth and labor power to be plundered by the TNCs. The assault against Yugoslavia threw open the floodgates for new wars including wars of competition among the industrial powers, with nuclear weapons part of the equation.
President Bill Clinton recently praised NATO for its campaign in Kosovo saying the alliance could intervene elsewhere in Europe or in Africa to fight repression."We can do it now. We can do it tomorrow, if it is necessary, somewhere else," he told U.S. troops gathered at the Skopje, Macedonia airport. (1)
Given these scenarios, it is hardly surprising that Clinton and the leaders of the other NATO countries continue to glorify the aggression against Yugoslavia as "preventing a humanitarian catastrophe," "promoting democracy" and "keeping the peace "against a Hitler-like dictator who would not adhere to "peace" agreements. The public is being repeatedly assured that the means -the bombing of the people of Yugoslavia-were justified by the ends.>>MORE Click for a complete analysis of the PNAC Kosovo bombing and invasion>>
http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might
Burgeoning military alliances, with the U.S. at the helm, are likely to try intervening in a similar way against North Korea, China any country refusing to be a "New World Order" colony by allowing its wealth and labor power to be plundered by the TNCs. The assault against Yugoslavia threw open the floodgates for new wars including wars of competition among the industrial powers, with nuclear weapons part of the equation.
President Bill Clinton recently praised NATO for its campaign in Kosovo saying the alliance could intervene elsewhere in Europe or in Africa to fight repression."We can do it now. We can do it tomorrow, if it is necessary, somewhere else," he told U.S. troops gathered at the Skopje, Macedonia airport. (1)
Given these scenarios, it is hardly surprising that Clinton and the leaders of the other NATO countries continue to glorify the aggression against Yugoslavia as "preventing a humanitarian catastrophe," "promoting democracy" and "keeping the peace "against a Hitler-like dictator who would not adhere to "peace" agreements. The public is being repeatedly assured that the means -the bombing of the people of Yugoslavia-were justified by the ends.>>MORE Click for a complete analysis of the PNAC Kosovo bombing and invasion>>
http://www.globalissues.org/article/448/backing-up-globalization-with-military-might
There is one thing that survives after the illegal 78 day bombing and invasion of Serbia: The US Military Base Camp Bondsteel (well it was built after our invasion)
By the way, are you familiar with the Rambouillet fiasco? Where US "Diplomats" added appendix b at the last minute? Even Henry Kissinger said it was too much. Imagine that.
But lots of people bought the lie that we were "helping people" by bombing people. And never even knew the real reasons for the war.
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Other than the European theatre of World War II, can you name any MAJOR examples [View all]
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
OP
Civil war was not fought for the poor, or the slaves, or any other "little people". n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#37
The difference was that Clinton tried to work within the International Community…
MrScorpio
Mar 2013
#5
The problem with citing any instance where war is used for a particular purpose…
MrScorpio
Mar 2013
#10
"No evidence of genocide was found by the FBI and UN investigators after the war." Not true.
pampango
Mar 2013
#60
The ICTY ruled Srebrenica was genocide. The FBI investigated war crimes in Kosovo
hack89
Mar 2013
#111
It at least stood AGAINST an anti-worker regime in its fight to control Europe.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#14
I'm sure there are a lot of people in line for an apology for the US indifference
Arctic Dave
Mar 2013
#15
This is a good point - the USA's actions up to that point were non-aggressive
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2013
#59
Other countries do horrible things, but none claim that their nations have a special claim
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#23
I think the war against the Japanese Empire was just, but as you have already dealt with that issue
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#30
Those are good questions, and I'll be the first to say I don't have all the answers, just opinions.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#33
I do. I don't have to love what our leaders have done to the world to prove that.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#88
We have a long and bloody history of fighting against the poor, dispossessed and working people.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#36
I can't think of any example of any imperial power fighting for the poor or dispossessed. In all
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#52
we were an imperial power from the beginning. first, we were part of other people's empires,
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#56
Nothing got better in Somalia. SALT didn't stop the arms race(or even come close)
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#72
Actually, no...we didn't fight for "the dispossessed", we fought against Aidid.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#87
I also rewrote my OP to make it clear that I wasn't talking solely about the use of military force.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#90
I admire the volunteers...most of whom were radicalized and came home and spoke truth
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#75
Yes, during Reagan's Central America interventions, returned Peace Corps volunteers
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2013
#82
I second this. Who in his right mind wishes he lived on the other side of the NK border?
dimbear
Mar 2013
#101