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In reply to the discussion: Other than the European theatre of World War II, can you name any MAJOR examples [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)60. "No evidence of genocide was found by the FBI and UN investigators after the war." Not true.
The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) is a United Nations court of law dealing with war crimes that took place during the conflicts in the Balkans in the 1990s.
In its precedent-setting decisions on genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, the Tribunal has shown that an individuals senior position can no longer protect them from prosecution.
The Tribunal has contributed to an indisputable historical record, combating denial and helping communities come to terms with their recent history. Crimes across the region can no longer be denied. For example, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the mass murder at Srebrenica was genocide.
Judges have also ruled that rape was used by members of the Bosnian Serb armed forces as an instrument of terror, and the judges in the Kvočka et al. trial established that a hellish orgy of persecution occurred in the Omarska, Keraterm and Trnopolje camps of northwestern Bosnia.
Undoubtedly, the Tribunals work has had a major impact on the states of the former Yugoslavia. Simply by removing some of the most senior and notorious criminals and holding them accountable the Tribunal has been able to lift the taint of violence, contribute to ending impunity and help pave the way for reconciliation.
The ICTY was the first war crimes court created by the UN and the first international war crimes tribunal since the Nuremberg and Tokyo tribunals. It was established by the Security Council in accordance with Chapter VII of the UN Charter. The key objective of the ICTY is to try those individuals most responsible for appalling acts such as murder, torture, rape, enslavement, destruction of property and other crimes listed in the Tribunal's Statute.
http://www.icty.org/sections/AbouttheICTY
In its precedent-setting decisions on genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity, the Tribunal has shown that an individuals senior position can no longer protect them from prosecution.
The Tribunal has contributed to an indisputable historical record, combating denial and helping communities come to terms with their recent history. Crimes across the region can no longer be denied. For example, it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the mass murder at Srebrenica was genocide.
Judges have also ruled that rape was used by members of the Bosnian Serb armed forces as an instrument of terror, and the judges in the Kvočka et al. trial established that a hellish orgy of persecution occurred in the Omarska, Keraterm and Trnopolje camps of northwestern Bosnia.
Undoubtedly, the Tribunals work has had a major impact on the states of the former Yugoslavia. Simply by removing some of the most senior and notorious criminals and holding them accountable the Tribunal has been able to lift the taint of violence, contribute to ending impunity and help pave the way for reconciliation.
The ICTY was the first war crimes court created by the UN and the first international war crimes tribunal since the Nuremberg and Tokyo tribunals. It was established by the Security Council in accordance with Chapter VII of the UN Charter. The key objective of the ICTY is to try those individuals most responsible for appalling acts such as murder, torture, rape, enslavement, destruction of property and other crimes listed in the Tribunal's Statute.
http://www.icty.org/sections/AbouttheICTY
Unless you are making a distinction between UN 'investigators' and ICTY judges, the UN has determined that 'genocide' occurred in the former Yugoslavia. They also determined that crimes against humanity and war crimes occurred, which did not meet the international definition of 'genocide', but were crimes punishable by the international court. I know none of us excuse war crimes and crimes against humanity just because they do not meet the definition of genocide.
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Other than the European theatre of World War II, can you name any MAJOR examples [View all]
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
OP
Civil war was not fought for the poor, or the slaves, or any other "little people". n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#37
The difference was that Clinton tried to work within the International Community…
MrScorpio
Mar 2013
#5
The problem with citing any instance where war is used for a particular purpose…
MrScorpio
Mar 2013
#10
"No evidence of genocide was found by the FBI and UN investigators after the war." Not true.
pampango
Mar 2013
#60
The ICTY ruled Srebrenica was genocide. The FBI investigated war crimes in Kosovo
hack89
Mar 2013
#111
It at least stood AGAINST an anti-worker regime in its fight to control Europe.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#14
I'm sure there are a lot of people in line for an apology for the US indifference
Arctic Dave
Mar 2013
#15
This is a good point - the USA's actions up to that point were non-aggressive
muriel_volestrangler
Mar 2013
#59
Other countries do horrible things, but none claim that their nations have a special claim
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#23
I think the war against the Japanese Empire was just, but as you have already dealt with that issue
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#30
Those are good questions, and I'll be the first to say I don't have all the answers, just opinions.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#33
I do. I don't have to love what our leaders have done to the world to prove that.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#88
We have a long and bloody history of fighting against the poor, dispossessed and working people.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#36
I can't think of any example of any imperial power fighting for the poor or dispossessed. In all
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#52
we were an imperial power from the beginning. first, we were part of other people's empires,
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#56
Nothing got better in Somalia. SALT didn't stop the arms race(or even come close)
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#72
Actually, no...we didn't fight for "the dispossessed", we fought against Aidid.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#87
I also rewrote my OP to make it clear that I wasn't talking solely about the use of military force.
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#90
I admire the volunteers...most of whom were radicalized and came home and spoke truth
Ken Burch
Mar 2013
#75
Yes, during Reagan's Central America interventions, returned Peace Corps volunteers
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2013
#82
I second this. Who in his right mind wishes he lived on the other side of the NK border?
dimbear
Mar 2013
#101