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mike dub

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:06 PM

Mar 2013

But I lean ever so slightly toward sad about his passing.

His socialism --- flat-out redistribution of some of his nation's wealth TO the poor (not stealing from them, ala regressive taxes, etc etc we have here in America) --- impresses me. And ironically, I only learned of his socialism After his passing (yesterday). Shows how little I knew about Venezuela, and Chavez.

I also liked that he was quoted as having said to his citizenry (in a major speech, I think) "I swear in front of you, my fellow Venezuelans..." (I forget what the following pledge was, but)
It was just Refreshing to hear a leader swear his word to his fellow Citizens --not GOD, for once.

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Check in if you are neither crying nor grave dancing over Hugo Chavez [View all] RB TexLa Mar 2013 OP

Raises hand... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1

No personal investment in the matter jberryhill Mar 2013 #2

present BainsBane Mar 2013 #3

Aye. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #4

Checking in. Pararescue Mar 2013 #5

Here. bluedigger Mar 2013 #6

Raising hand! mailman82 Mar 2013 #7

checking in elehhhhna Mar 2013 #8

Neutral is where I'm at quinnox Mar 2013 #9

Count me in appleannie1 Mar 2013 #10

Did some good, did some bad Prism Mar 2013 #11

I'm meh. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #12

That'd be me Warpy Mar 2013 #13

me = meh n/t NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #14

Checking in. stevenleser Mar 2013 #15

Niger says different. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #34

I said hard, not impossible. If the leaders take all the money and stuff them in swiss bank accounts stevenleser Mar 2013 #70

Unfortunately, it is all too tempting for most oil producing countries. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #74

Agreed, but my point is, simply not being a thief doesn't mean you are an economic genius. stevenleser Mar 2013 #77

Neoliberal doesn't work either, Russia is a glaring example. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #87

I don't agree that Russia's system is neoliberal. I think it is much more complicated than that. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #92

True, there is more detail to it but the framework is NL. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #94

Chavez subsidized energy (oil, electric, gas, etc.) to keep it affordable for the population. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #85

The only people who think that's bad is neoliberal asshats. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #90

Hear, hear! xtraxritical Mar 2013 #96

Chavism sounds like an abhorrent political system Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #104

With $$$ comes temptation. Dash87 Mar 2013 #108

People often have a cartoonish view of politics in foreign countries Chathamization Mar 2013 #16

Sure. Are you just wondering if you're not alone? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #17

pretty much not my business msongs Mar 2013 #18

Here! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #19

Never was a fan. Throd Mar 2013 #20

Yeah, that's how I'm reacting. TDale313 Mar 2013 #21

Don't care one way or the other. n/t customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #22

I am sort of sad. n/t RebelOne Mar 2013 #23

Prominent South American political figure dies. Rex Mar 2013 #24

Hoping for the best for Venezuala on general principles bhikkhu Mar 2013 #25

Call me Mr. Ambivalent Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #26

I Admire A Guy That Pokes The First World In The Eye... WillyT Mar 2013 #27

What Willy said! donheld Mar 2013 #101

Wait...is Hugo Chavez dead? Let me check recent threads... TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #28

No opinion.. pipoman Mar 2013 #29

don't care Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #30

Not a huge deal to me. 99Forever Mar 2013 #31

Here tnlurker Mar 2013 #32

Checking in. GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #33

I'm neither celebrating nor shedding a tear. muntrv Mar 2013 #35

Checking in. cordelia Mar 2013 #36

Hand is up. MineralMan Mar 2013 #37

Don't care a bit elfin Mar 2013 #38

Yawn Lurks Often Mar 2013 #39

Indeed RZM Mar 2013 #40

Word. I'm not happy when someone dies, especially due to cancer. phleshdef Mar 2013 #41

Neutral - but concerned about the future of Venezuela LeftInTX Mar 2013 #42

He was just another in a long line of opportunistic politial operatives on this planet. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #43

I don't do grave dancing & easttexaslefty Mar 2013 #44

I like that Rainngirl Mar 2013 #45

Meh ... takes too much energy for either one Bake Mar 2013 #46

No body lives forever...not even Hugo Historic NY Mar 2013 #47

Neither. Just trying to get by. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #48

*yawns* i'm here n/t southern_belle Mar 2013 #49

Meh solara Mar 2013 #50

Present. Oakenshield Mar 2013 #51

Here here. Zax2me Mar 2013 #52

Raising my hand. n/t ChazII Mar 2013 #53

He started out ok but went the way of most South America's leaders BellaLuna Mar 2013 #54

I wasn't a huge fan but he was far from the worst leader of a country. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #55

I didn't even know he was dead. Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #56

Me either! nt raccoon Mar 2013 #106

Here! R.I.P. Milliesmom Mar 2013 #57

neither Tikki Mar 2013 #58

I'm waving a little flag of indifference. Shrike47 Mar 2013 #59

Neither. yellerpup Mar 2013 #60

El Sistema. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2013 #99

Thanks for posting this re: El Sistema! yellerpup Mar 2013 #105

I am having a hard time... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #61

Meh! nt SCVDem Mar 2013 #62

I quote Jimmy Carter jsr Mar 2013 #63

That was well said. Thanks for posting it. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #78

like (NT) The Wizard Mar 2013 #88

Jimmy Carter is such a wise man Lifelong Protester Mar 2013 #110

Neither. liberalmuse Mar 2013 #64

Chavez was not a friend to a free press grantcart Mar 2013 #67

I'm am either/or or neither/nor just1voice Mar 2013 #65

Thanks, our grammar debate at work today was over possessive tenses. RB TexLa Mar 2013 #66

No strong feelings either way ... jb5150 Mar 2013 #68

Hugo Chavez libdude Mar 2013 #69

I am here. mecherosegarden Mar 2013 #71

Checking in nt MrScorpio Mar 2013 #72

Same here. iandhr Mar 2013 #73

*Raises Hand* "Here" BDavinciNY Mar 2013 #75

At Least He Survived ProgressiveJarhead Mar 2013 #76

Don't care either way madville Mar 2013 #79

I just think it's messed up that this is yet another Heather MC Mar 2013 #80

Yes, I'm in this category.... n/t Still Sensible Mar 2013 #81

here! mitchtv Mar 2013 #82

It's sad for his family Renew Deal Mar 2013 #83

... jmg257 Mar 2013 #84

not crying but do think it's sad that he died JI7 Mar 2013 #86

Raises hand. 840high Mar 2013 #89

I considered dancing on his grave Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #91

*shrug* n/t Tien1985 Mar 2013 #93

Of course it's neither. CBHagman Mar 2013 #95

The instrument has not been invented Seeking Serenity Mar 2013 #97

checking in rollin74 Mar 2013 #98

Present. Brigid Mar 2013 #100

Here. He was just another politician with a gift for publicity, neither entirely good or bad. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2013 #102

Moi. applegrove Mar 2013 #103

Here I am. HappyMe Mar 2013 #107

Venezulan statistics everyone SHOULD care about noiretextatique Mar 2013 #109

+1000. If you watch the live coverage Catherina Mar 2013 #111

I admit AsahinaKimi Mar 2013 #112

I think he was a good man for the most part...but I did not know him personally. alphafemale Mar 2013 #113

Present!! cliffordu Mar 2013 #114

I am concerned for the people of Venezuela. Chavez was good and bad, nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #115

Not terribly invested here either.. n/t Sheepshank Mar 2013 #116

Yep... RevStPatrick Mar 2013 #117

checking in mike dub Mar 2013 #118

Present. Chavez did many good deeds and some that weren't good. He was a complex person. nt bluestate10 Mar 2013 #119