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Declaring war should be under the authority of Congress not the executive branch still_one Mar 2013 #1

Duh..... lumpy Mar 2013 #60

it can be argued that Viet Nam and Iraq were wars? still_one Mar 2013 #81

Even if it sounds, smells, tastes, and kills like a war TommyCelt Mar 2013 #133

Rand Paul is a snake oil salesman just like his Daddy BootinUp Mar 2013 #2

I agree. It's moot. He's still about this... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #9

He's not arguing against using drones on American soil, he wants clarity as to when. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #3

Then we need to make the stronger argument. LOUDLY. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #8

People want jobs, healthcare, education, better wages. This drone talk is becoming just paranoia. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #17

We need more oversight and restraint... not a letter telling us what he's going to do. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #23

Hey I'm all for oversight/restraint but republicans created this mess. Now they're pointing fingers? JaneyVee Mar 2013 #26

I'm sure he is. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #92

I didn't realize "the Left" had... 99Forever Mar 2013 #16

It's actually my old position. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #20

How does that relate to your claiming to speak for "the Left?" 99Forever Mar 2013 #33

So then you're FOR drones? JaneyVee Mar 2013 #88

What I am "FOR" isn't the question. 99Forever Mar 2013 #90

I'm the one saying the Left is anti-drone, you're claiming I don't speak for the Left. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #101

Wait. He's arguing with you, not me? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #104

I don't even know what the argument is about. I agree we need oversight & restraint, I just don't JaneyVee Mar 2013 #108

I'm not "claiming" anything at all, beyond that... 99Forever Mar 2013 #109

When did I claim such a thing ever? I said The Left is anti-drone. You told me I don't speak for JaneyVee Mar 2013 #111

You know what? I'm totally sorry if I said... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #91

I wasn't even commenting to you. 99Forever Mar 2013 #93

No, it's totally me. Sorry. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #112

Thanks for the smile. 99Forever Mar 2013 #113

Exactly. Peace! paulbibeau Mar 2013 #114

The truth is what it is. It doesn't matter who says it. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #21

Not my argument. 99Forever Mar 2013 #37

I don't remember taking on a spokesperson role here. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #69

This....THIS RIGHT HERE. TommyCelt Mar 2013 #107

I agree with your sentiment, taste in music, and ethnic heritage. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #110

The Left is against using drones anywhere??? progressoid Mar 2013 #75

They may be left-wing but I wouldn't consider them The Left. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #103

Do we really need another topic kissing Rand Paul's ass? Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #4

Then obviously it needs to be said 50001 times... because nothing has changed. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #6

+100% demwing Mar 2013 #35

If he's being hypocritical, and he is, he's wrong. Plain and simple. bigtree Mar 2013 #5

I want him in the discussion, because it ought to shame us... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #7

I'll never be 'shamed ' by opportunists/hypocrites like Paul and his ilk. bigtree Mar 2013 #10

Are you going to write to your Congressperson today on this? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #14

whew bigtree Mar 2013 #22

I'm just pointing something out that's obviously true. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #24

consider the object of your praise bigtree Mar 2013 #31

Not praising him. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #32

ah, commending him, then, for his superior defense bigtree Mar 2013 #41

No. Not even that. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #82

past the op bigtree Mar 2013 #95

I'm not saying he did more for freedom over the course of a long period of time... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #98

Bravo! Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #157

Fuck Rand Paul... SidDithers Mar 2013 #11

Are you going to write to your Congressperson today on the drone strikes? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #15

which drone strikes? snooper2 Mar 2013 #51

LOL tridim Mar 2013 #156

Freedom of speech. Remember ? Put up or shut up ? lumpy Mar 2013 #58

It's not a command. It's an observation on his relevance. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #85

Or the MP of his riding? Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #78

If he was making noise about the deployment of drones, then yes Schema Thing Mar 2013 #12

So we need to start questioning the bigger problem. We. Democrats. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #18

Yes indeed, we have killed US citizens just using different tools, not drones. lumpy Mar 2013 #57

i shit paul spanone Mar 2013 #13

I thought I made my position on the man clear. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #19

I just love the smell of troll bait in the morning. DeadEyeDyck Mar 2013 #25

I've noticed everybody makes this about the personalities... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #28

I venture to say that the issue of drones is being dealt with legally just as any other issue lumpy Mar 2013 #64

I definitely don't think we live in a dictatorship... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #94

How does our membership in the UN affect our foreign policy ? Does this have any lumpy Mar 2013 #136

"What permanent war are you referring to?" Uh, the ongoing one... Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #100

Did you read the Esquire article on the guy who killed bin Laden? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #102

It's an embarrassment that more Dems aren't taking a stronger stand against drones. reformist2 Mar 2013 #27

Yes. Thank you. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #30

The real embarassment, speaking about weapons, is that the Republicans and their offshoots lumpy Mar 2013 #67

And so is a broken fucking watch twice a day DainBramaged Mar 2013 #29

You might have a point if... BklnDem75 Mar 2013 #34

Clearly, Dems have better motives demwing Mar 2013 #36

On this... and only this... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #39

Agreed demwing Mar 2013 #48

The issue isn't going away. There is always the issue of the GOP trying to get control lumpy Mar 2013 #71

It's not about listening to Rand Paul. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #38

How can he be right about something he has no intention of changing? BklnDem75 Mar 2013 #44

And truth coming from an opponent is difficult to accept demwing Mar 2013 #50

It's nice when someone gets what you're trying to say. Thank you. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #52

Trust me, this gives me no pleasure. demwing Mar 2013 #55

Wait... you mean bag of dicks is a separate thing? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #70

It's also his senate email address (bagofdicks@senate.gov) demwing Mar 2013 #73

No, it doesn't sting at all, demwing. What gives you that idea ? lumpy Mar 2013 #77

Because it stings me demwing Mar 2013 #80

It don't sting. He's playing people. BklnDem75 Mar 2013 #97

YMMV demwing Mar 2013 #115

Rand Paul does not care about Drones. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #40

Sure. But that's moot. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #42

Maybe to you. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #46

Will you take Eric Holder seriously? That's the issue. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #83

+1 Chorophyll Mar 2013 #120

Yes he doesn't mean it... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #43

Actually, no, it's not the truth. Schema Thing Mar 2013 #45

+100 JoePhilly Mar 2013 #47

Dick Cheney used that argument all the time to defend torture. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #49

If... LeftyChristian Mar 2013 #63

oh please. Schema Thing Mar 2013 #65

Jesus Christ !!!! lumpy Mar 2013 #74

Of course you are absolutely correct. woo me with science Mar 2013 #53

You see? I knew there were Democrats on this site! paulbibeau Mar 2013 #54

Woo me with science not political rhetoric. lumpy Mar 2013 #79

No, he's not. We're not killing people with drones here. The President didn't TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #56

This is a good point. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #150

David Duke likes ALL the same thing Rand Paul does. David Duke hates all the same people Rand does. graham4anything Mar 2013 #59

But Obama is the King of King's!!! Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #61

Exactly right. Those four words sting because they should. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #62

Even John Cusack is asking "Where are the Democrats?" Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #66

John "Is the President just another Ivy League asshole?" Cusack? Robb Mar 2013 #68

A stopped clock is right twice a day. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #72

Party before country...sickens me nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #76

The definition of an "uncomfortable truth". And it's much too uncomfortable for most DUers. (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #84

Right now it's painful, but I honestly think... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #89

Winner quote roxy1234 Mar 2013 #86

Yes. Thank you. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #148

The only way ProSense Mar 2013 #87

Well, either he's right, or Democrats were wrong when Bush was president. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #96

Yes. Especially the last part. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #99

Yep. Far right. KamaAina Mar 2013 #105

That's pretty funny. No one even mentioned that. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #106

For those who see no problem with extra-judicial assassination demwing Mar 2013 #116

Have you just seen the front page of HuffPost? nt paulbibeau Mar 2013 #117

I have demwing Mar 2013 #119

What's really sad is... BklnDem75 Mar 2013 #121

That is extremely sad demwing Mar 2013 #123

The idea that Rand Paul gives a shit about *anything* is ludicrous. Chorophyll Mar 2013 #118

He's a bullshit artist, and he voted in favor of the NDAA - fuck him tjwash Mar 2013 #124

Fuck Rand Paul, and all his apologists. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #122

Oh you mean OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #141

Rand Paul is a cretin! n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #125

So he's a cretin for opposing Bush policies? Then what does that make all of us sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #128

Get off of the Rand Paul bandwagon. RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #129

Lol, and another failed attempt at using Paul sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #137

Why do you think RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #158

Like I said, if getting Paul to support an issue that has long been supported by sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #159

Make NO assumptions about what I believe. nt patrice Mar 2013 #126

I see the usual subjects are obfuscating for the Administration. U4ikLefty Mar 2013 #127

Or perhaps "the usual suspects" believe that Rand Paul is far more dangerous to Chorophyll Mar 2013 #130

It's the ISSUE, Chorophyll TommyCelt Mar 2013 #131

Just to be clear about my OP... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #132

^^^case in point U4ikLefty Mar 2013 #135

Yup that's me, a "usual suspect." I've never seen you before, but I guess you've been Chorophyll Mar 2013 #138

So true, their ad-hom attacks overwhelm their ability to think about the issue just1voice Mar 2013 #147

Fuck Rand Paul. JTFrog Mar 2013 #134

Rand Paul is a Timothy McVeigh wannabe NNN0LHI Mar 2013 #139

Not according to Al Giordano.. Cha Mar 2013 #140

Yes, a ploy. And it has worked. Now Liberals have abandoned Civil Rights because of sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #142

Do you know the so-called Frontline program to take the House for Dems? paulbibeau Mar 2013 #143

Link that show, man Kolesar Mar 2013 #154

Not a show - but here. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #155

Paul is being an IDIOT. "Promise you won't attack a person in a cafe with a drone." FUCKING CRAZY ! RBInMaine Mar 2013 #144

Rand Paul is a kook creeksneakers2 Mar 2013 #145

Your entire post is VERY well said. Rand Paul is being NUTTY, and the whole issue is being HYPED. RBInMaine Mar 2013 #163

So you made a thread telling us the broken clock was right a couple of times today? donheld Mar 2013 #146

I said he was wrong, bad, and a hypocrite in the OP. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #149

What's his take on tax shelters to the wealtiest Americans ? orpupilofnature57 Mar 2013 #151

Yes... but... paulbibeau Mar 2013 #152

Good post, but don't expect it to be understood. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #160

Absolutely. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #161

Rand Paul didn't state anything. He just bloviated a loaded question Kolesar Mar 2013 #153

"Grandstand With Rand" !!! aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #165

Ok, forget about Rand Paul OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #162

Yes. paulbibeau Mar 2013 #164

Yeah I get what you mean OwnedByCats Mar 2013 #166