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TommyCelt

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47. Seeing far more attacks

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:22 PM

Mar 2013

on RP's bad rug and asshattery than I'm seeing about the actual issue.

Isn't this the complaint about Republicans in Congress? Just because it comes from the Obama White House, it must be opposed...even if it's a good idea? Seems to me that Democrats have flipped this around on Paul. If this statement had come from the previous administration's Attorney General, about the mere possibility of drones being used on American citizens, this page would be all pitchforks and torches about W fascism.

The drone issue is the bastard child of the Patriot Act (which is unconstitutional; when drafted under the Bush administration, and when re-authorized by the Obama).

I'm no social conservative, and I generally find Rand Paul's pet issues repugnant. But I'm incredulous to find so few liberals backing him and so ready to accept Holder's "but it's only for really bad guys in really rare/hypothetical situations" explanation. This is a civil rights issue.

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Yes he can kiss madokie Mar 2013 #1

Rand Paul is one of the people in this world who Skidmore Mar 2013 #2

Just looking at the guy pisses me off. HappyMe Mar 2013 #3

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Thanks for joining DU to post in favor of more guns and Rand Paul. Robb Mar 2013 #10

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There's a first time for everything kyeshinka Mar 2013 #24

I hate Rand Paul, and everything he stands for kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #38

If it was a tea bag president Glaisne Mar 2013 #43

I agree with that. kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #49

I totally agree with you... fadedrose Mar 2013 #44

True and I expected more from Democrats Dorn Mar 2013 #14

The issue has been in the spotlight for anyone watching. pangaia Mar 2013 #28

Such an ethical filibuster, too! It lasted all of 15 hours! randome Mar 2013 #5

He's right colbertforpresident Mar 2013 #6

Filibustering what? It's Congress' responsibility to propose legislation. randome Mar 2013 #12

It makes me sick G_j Mar 2013 #9

+1 magellan Mar 2013 #27

+1 G_j Mar 2013 #35

Seeing far more attacks TommyCelt Mar 2013 #47

Well said on all counts magellan Mar 2013 #72

Maybe that thing on his head is getting to his brain. AnnieK401 Mar 2013 #11

I think it's related to Trump's piece. A sad clone, perhaps. randome Mar 2013 #13

Democrats should have led this filibuster, en masse. woo me with science Mar 2013 #15

I agree Dorn Mar 2013 #19

It is less about principal than it is tribalism today. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #20

I fear you're right. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #33

Yes sir. 99Forever Mar 2013 #37

he needs to be drug tested SemperEadem Mar 2013 #16

Could use more republicans hitting the bong, to be honesst. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #40

He's sort of a libertarian mwrguy Mar 2013 #54

I don't care for Rand Paul; but what about giving credit where it's due?... truth2power Mar 2013 #17

I would bet if this was done during bush's administration, 99.9% on DU would be outraged on the still_one Mar 2013 #23

yes and yes colbertforpresident Mar 2013 #31

What is bothersome, is why isn't a Democrat in Congress bring this up. I guess Ron Wyden(sic), and still_one Mar 2013 #32

I'm glad all of the Democrats licking Rand Paul's ass... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #18

Give it a few years. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #36

David - you're right on point. toby jo Mar 2013 #50

Thanks for the kind words. davidthegnome Mar 2013 #62

Even if it is political theater, the issue is being brought to public attention. Every since the still_one Mar 2013 #21

Did Rand Paul or any republican have a problem with drone strikes abelenkpe Mar 2013 #22

Tu quoque <nm> TommyCelt Mar 2013 #51

K&R JoePhilly Mar 2013 #26

The fact that some from our own side are agreeing with him makes me ill Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #29

Please insist he brush his teeth first. Autumn Mar 2013 #30

Not A Fan OF Rand Paul The Libertarians But I Agree With Him raindaddy Mar 2013 #34

I suspect that those who agree with Rand Paul have never taken a basic civics class, nor have any msanthrope Mar 2013 #42

As none of the people you mentioned TommyCelt Mar 2013 #52

That is utterly incorrect. It is also the viewpoint of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who thinks that the msanthrope Mar 2013 #55

OK... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #57

Custodial or non-custodial enemy combatants have the rights under the Constitution as outlined in msanthrope Mar 2013 #58

So... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #59

To what, precisely? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #68

To the question I asked you... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #69

You are asking an imprecise question. Citizenship isn't the issue. The better question is msanthrope Mar 2013 #70

Without a trial who makes the decision.... raindaddy Mar 2013 #63

"were in the act of a crime" well, did a jury say they were committing a crime? geek tragedy Mar 2013 #65

My belief is if there were the slightest... raindaddy Mar 2013 #66

In terms of preventing an unfolding attack in real time, there is no place geek tragedy Mar 2013 #67

I adore ABL. but I have to say--I don't want that man's lips (or, indeed, any part of him) anwhere niyad Mar 2013 #39

my impression: BREMPRO Mar 2013 #41

I hope he does run IrishAyes Mar 2013 #48

Didn't take him long to compare Obama to Hitler, did it? louis-t Mar 2013 #45

As to constant comparisons IrishAyes Mar 2013 #46

freaking out that the Black Dude in the White House is going to drone strike them in the Whole Food mwrguy Mar 2013 #53

I don't care if he's purple... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #60

I don't think all of this attack-the-messenger, friend-of-my-enemy type logic speaks well Romulox Mar 2013 #56

Rand Paul is attacking a straw man. No one has suggested that the President can assassinate people geek tragedy Mar 2013 #61

Fuck Ron Paul. Fuck Rand Paul. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #64

I Would Never Vote For This Guy But.... colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #71

Fuck Rand. sagat Mar 2013 #73