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wtmusic

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29. The access limits are a violation of the Second Amendment

Reply to Recursion (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:24 PM

Mar 2013

just like high-capacity clips.

Go for it.

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If I Had a Rocket Launcher... [View all] phantom power Mar 2013 OP

If you can pass the background checks for the guns and missiles, and can afford them... slackmaster Mar 2013 #1

Can I get an atom bomb? wtmusic Mar 2013 #9

If you're rich enough you could buy GE, so yes Recursion Mar 2013 #25

Fuck the nuke-grabbers and their limits. I have my second amendment rights wtmusic Mar 2013 #27

Nukes cost an absolute shit-ton of money, and there are strict access limits Recursion Mar 2013 #28

The access limits are a violation of the Second Amendment wtmusic Mar 2013 #29

Nope, use of arms is not the same as the keeping and bearing of arms Recursion Mar 2013 #30

Bullshit. wtmusic Mar 2013 #32

I'm not sure what you consider "highly" restricted Recursion Mar 2013 #35

Of course, it doesn't say "firearms" in the Constitution. wtmusic Mar 2013 #38

Take it up with the Supreme Court; that's how the law has been decided for 80 years Recursion Mar 2013 #41

Nukes are commonly in use by infantry? wtmusic Mar 2013 #43

No, that's my point. This whole idea is a strawman Recursion Mar 2013 #45

But...but...SCOTUS is the government. I have guns to protect myself from the government. wtmusic Mar 2013 #48

... ellisonz Mar 2013 #84

By your logic, the wealthy would have enough weaponry to destroy everyone else. Scuba Mar 2013 #13

Much as they try and deny it, the pro-gun argument always steers right. wtmusic Mar 2013 #23

You've never heard of Blackwater? Recursion Mar 2013 #26

I don't believe a civilian could own an Apache. EOTE Mar 2013 #14

You can buy a Main Battle Tank if you have the money, Pararescue Mar 2013 #19

It seems as if they are marketing those to military support organizations. EOTE Mar 2013 #31

Create your own Corporation, same as sports stars One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #37

They might be marketing to military support orgs. Pararescue Mar 2013 #44

I see the links you're providing. EOTE Mar 2013 #46

Sure there are limits. Pararescue Mar 2013 #49

So, my comment remains. EOTE Mar 2013 #55

Neither would I want to live in a country like that. Pararescue Mar 2013 #57

I see his assertion, but I see nothing in terms of proof backing that up. EOTE Mar 2013 #61

I looked also and couldn't find anything about the legality of owning one. Pararescue Mar 2013 #64

I did find this, which suggests that it's illegal. EOTE Mar 2013 #67

The launcher itself isn't illegal to own, Pararescue Mar 2013 #68

Nope. No right to own explosives, which the rockets and missiles are. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #18

He could take the warheads off the missiles and replace them with paintballs. wtmusic Mar 2013 #20

The rocket motor is also an explosive. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #22

So is a bullet. wtmusic Mar 2013 #24

A bullet is a projectile sarisataka Mar 2013 #33

Blah blah considered blah, but blah blah. wtmusic Mar 2013 #34

I can consider a toaster sarisataka Mar 2013 #40

I love it when gun advocates go absolutist. wtmusic Mar 2013 #42

Nothing absolutist. The problem is they are not arbitrary sarisataka Mar 2013 #47

So you agree that gun control is not (categorically) a bad idea? nt wtmusic Mar 2013 #52

I have no problem with the concept of sarisataka Mar 2013 #58

Gotcha wtmusic Mar 2013 #62

This weekend up here in the snow sarisataka Mar 2013 #66

Hmmmmm? wtmusic Mar 2013 #56

Have to catch me during breaks sarisataka Mar 2013 #59

People can buy, own, make, and fire quite substantial rocket motors slackmaster Mar 2013 #50

With appropriate licenses, yes. But the fact they need a license means it isn't a right. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #74

Is there not a right to marriage? slackmaster Mar 2013 #77

No, there isn't. There is a right to equal treatment under the law. jeff47 Mar 2013 #80

But there are specific legal conditions for common-law marriage. slackmaster Mar 2013 #82

And there are specific legal conditions for not-common-law marriages jeff47 Mar 2013 #85

The Supreme Court has ruled many times that marriage is a fundamental right. slackmaster Mar 2013 #88

Anyone who can qualify for a license can own and and use explosives slackmaster Mar 2013 #51

Question, because I'm not sure Pararescue Mar 2013 #53

They're destructive devices under the law. It is at least theoretically possible to buy them... slackmaster Mar 2013 #54

Another issue is sarisataka Mar 2013 #63

To answer your question... Xithras Mar 2013 #69

Great information. Pararescue Mar 2013 #70

There are a number of DIY cruise missile projects on the Internet. Xithras Mar 2013 #71

Thanks. Pararescue Mar 2013 #72

And by needing to qualify for a license, it isn't a right jeff47 Mar 2013 #75

You can't be arbitrarily denied an explosives permit for a capricious reason. slackmaster Mar 2013 #76

What in your background would disqualify you from free speech? (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #78

Being a convicted felon held in solitary confinement in prison slackmaster Mar 2013 #79

Convicted felons in prison have gone through due process jeff47 Mar 2013 #81

That's exactly what I am saying. All rights exist save those that have been curtailed through... slackmaster Mar 2013 #83

But a felony conviction that prevents you from getting an explosives license jeff47 Mar 2013 #86

In some states a felony conviction prevents you from voting slackmaster Mar 2013 #87

Yet you did not have to apply for a license to vote jeff47 Mar 2013 #89

I think I've lost the thread here. Besides marriage, which you are wrong about, what are you saying slackmaster Mar 2013 #90

"You have a right to own it" - A military attack helicopter? No, you don't. Is there any limit apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #60

Lindsey Graham's comments are creating a knee jerk reaction that makes one feel unsafe.. midnight Mar 2013 #2

... Ian David Mar 2013 #3

Boeing loves you... Agnosticsherbet Mar 2013 #4

My first thought was Peter, Paul, and Mary. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2013 #5