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John2

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32. I know that President Obama
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:25 PM
Mar 2013

is a Politician, that was a very ambitious young man. He is an American unlike the Birth er's claim and has the values of Americans. He is His father was an African Kenyan but he was raised by his white American mother and her side of the family in Kansas. So they gave him his values. He does not like to talk about or admit the open racism in this country too much. He thinks every American has his best interests in heart but he needs to face the reality of U.S. History. This is not the pure country he thinks it is when some Americans give this holier than thou attitude to others. We have our demons too and need to clean them up in this country before we go preaching to someone else.

That is President Obama's problem. Sure he became President of the United States, but that was mostly due to the changing Demographics and the Liberal minority of whites that are not racists. Those are the people you owe. This is only one of many battles of a continuing War in this country ever since it's existence. All persons were not equal in this country according to the original founders. They meant All white men were equal. We changed that though starting with the Civil War some who fought still resisted by guerrilla tactics like the creation of white supremacists groups like the KKK. They even tried to justify their claims scientifically and rejected the notion of science. If their religion claimed them to be superior then that was their Bible, which I include Brigham Young, co founder of Romney's religion. Religion is based on faith and beliefs, that is part of the President's fabric. He is definitely a Christian to the core but find some parts of his religion troubling when it comes to discrimination against sexual orientation. His religion is suppose to teach Love but is conflicting with hatred language towards certain humans. I remember the World was flat once according to such faiths.

I'm trying to influence Obama to come around, he does not influence me. I see a lotta potential in him. He can't do anything without the support of people like me because we empowered him. We chose him over Hillary Clinton. All the Democratic Representatives we sent to Congress do not toe the line either. They are the people legislating the laws and not President Obama. They are the ones should be held accountable more than Obama. They should be influencing him. I do not accept the notion that some want to blame him by giving certain people in Congress cover to go along.

That whole intentions of the Republican Party to blame the Black President. Place the focus on those Red State Democrats calling themselves moderates. I don't take the position they hold their office just because of the right wing extremists in their states or districts. I'm going to use Senator Hagan as an example. She got a lot of the Liberal and minority vote in her state
also. I would even go further and say the majority of her base comes from those constituents. Regardless of what kind of political fight she will be in, she should be the one held more accountable than President Obama because we have direct influence in saying if you would even be in contention for re-election. She needs to be the one making sure the President toe the line. He cannot do anything without her or any one else in Congress on the Democratic side approval. Boehner needs to be negotiating with them not the President. The President does not legislate anything. He can influence but he has no power to legislate. And pretending that it is all Obama's fault is deceptive.

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... SidDithers Mar 2013 #1
Sincerely hope you are wrong CanonRay Mar 2013 #2
No he wont. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #3
So youre saying he's a liar? He's already offered do it several times. bowens43 Mar 2013 #51
Offered to "reform", not cut down peoples benefits. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #69
I'm not so sure, either. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #85
Are you being sarcastic? darkangel218 Mar 2013 #88
Cheap suits probably fold/drape poorly, because they're not cut on the true. n/t winter is coming Mar 2013 #4
Who folds a suit? Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #48
I've never understood it, either, unless we're supposed to think winter is coming Mar 2013 #50
Here's one definition. atreides1 Mar 2013 #56
I think everyone understood what it means... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #73
The usual metaphor for this situation is Justpat Mar 2013 #83
What? Are you crazy?! Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #87
It's a bad analogy. blogslut Mar 2013 #61
Didn't know he was one of those dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #5
Is something specific making you think that? vi5 Mar 2013 #6
Will you bother to give him credit if he doesn't? lunatica Mar 2013 #7
No, no points for TeaPubliKlans not being able to say yes. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #16
He's already offered. Repeatedly. Marr Mar 2013 #39
Another member of the Obama Haters Club. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #8
And it starts..... Itchinjim Mar 2013 #9
Folding means there is some resistance but he has actually been trying to force peas down TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #10
One! More! Time! Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #11
Its hilarious. Chicken little and the Boy who cried wolf have been right more often. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #63
It's the new Libertarian/Green/Troll hybrid that now inhabits all of DU. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #76
He always planned to do this. forestpath Mar 2013 #12
And yet ... each time it has been predicted, it has not happened. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #67
Correction: 99Forever Mar 2013 #13
My guess is that tea partiers are saying the same about Boehner and McConnell. pampango Mar 2013 #14
Message auto-removed GRENADE Mar 2013 #15
Obama will fold on Obamacare. tridim Mar 2013 #17
You're kidding, right? There is documented proof that he folded on Obamacare. Dawgs Mar 2013 #18
I know that President Obama John2 Mar 2013 #32
Obama passed comprehensive HCR. tridim Mar 2013 #40
Comprehensive HCR that no Democrat should want. Dawgs Mar 2013 #54
No We Have Obamacare.. A strong Foundation. Cha Mar 2013 #71
Please, do tell us about the 'Public Option' RC Mar 2013 #27
Congress wouldn't pass HCR with single payer. tridim Mar 2013 #41
And did Obama ever say anything favor of such? RC Mar 2013 #45
Do you think he wouldn't have signed a bill with a public option? loyalsister Mar 2013 #75
He did fold on the public Carolina Mar 2013 #35
The public option was removed by Republicans in congress. tridim Mar 2013 #43
and your point! Carolina Mar 2013 #44
They wouldn't have removed it if there had been a fight over it. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #68
+1 treestar Mar 2013 #90
Link? nt Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #19
prove it. spanone Mar 2013 #20
He doesn't need to prove it theaocp Mar 2013 #46
So where it this crystal ball of yours? Javaman Mar 2013 #21
Social Security 90-percent Mar 2013 #22
He was purchased a long time ago. In our system, they do not allow you where he is w/o owning you! Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #23
Like every other time the subject has come up? Sheepshank Mar 2013 #24
Manufactured outrage widgets don't just make themselves!!! JoePhilly Mar 2013 #64
Thunk! Thunk! Thunk!... SidDithers Mar 2013 #84
yes; just because he constantly brings it up Skittles Mar 2013 #77
Ohhhh noes........ Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2013 #25
Really? Rabid_Rabbit Mar 2013 #26
Unrec. You came out of the woodwork to tell us this? FSogol Mar 2013 #28
If Obama folds abelenkpe Mar 2013 #29
The people who post these sky-is-falling threads are ALWAYS wrong. tridim Mar 2013 #42
Yup, The Same People Also Said He Would Never Let the Bush Tax Cuts Expire Skraxx Mar 2013 #70
Time for another thrilling visit to.... jberryhill Mar 2013 #30
Sounds like you're the one who folded. And I bet it was pre-2008. MjolnirTime Mar 2013 #31
Sadly I agree Nite Owl Mar 2013 #33
"Fold"? He's been very anxiously pushing for these cuts for a long time. Marr Mar 2013 #34
Wrong. It's been a game of "Good Cop/Bad Cop" all along. Duh. nt Romulox Mar 2013 #36
Rec'd but the folding is an illusion. This is what he wanted all along Catherina Mar 2013 #37
It will take a Democrat to cut SS theaocp Mar 2013 #47
That it will. The Democratic Party as we know it will be toast if they do cut SS. avaistheone1 Mar 2013 #52
Speculative outrage is the best outrage...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #38
Finest kind of all. nt Hekate Mar 2013 #53
This is it!! Here it comes!! Any second!!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2013 #65
Good Job POST AND RUN snooper2 Mar 2013 #49
He moved onto whine about Harry Reid Kolesar Mar 2013 #58
This constant refrain is kind of like Alexander Pope's "Hope springs eternal" in reverse Hekate Mar 2013 #55
You know it's coming. Ganja Ninja Mar 2013 #57
Huh? eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #60
When? Its been "coming" for about 4 years now ... JoePhilly Mar 2013 #66
You can't even compose sentences...eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #59
I love this prediction. Only abouy the 10th time we've seen it JoePhilly Mar 2013 #62
yup Skittles Mar 2013 #78
Could you just kick some ass right damn now. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #80
There is a difference between talking about something and ... JoePhilly Mar 2013 #81
there's a difference between having your head in the sand Skittles Mar 2013 #82
So this time its going to happen, right? JoePhilly Mar 2013 #86
WHO KNOWS??? Skittles Mar 2013 #89
.. The only thingy Cheap around here are Cha Mar 2013 #72
No no no he isn't. Zax2me Mar 2013 #74
I won't believe it until he does it. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #79
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