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11. Please link me to a story which says definitively 'she was not a nurse' which includes the source

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:37 PM

Mar 2013

of that information. I have not seen that.

The 'independent living' section of this facility does not have a DNR policy. It has a "No CPR" policy. The family claims the woman chose this facility knowing its policies because she didn't want medical intervention.

However, there is nothing on file to verify that. She did not have a DNR order on file, or a living will.

Emergency techs in california are in fact bound by a DNR order:

What happens when paramedics or EMTs respond to a person with a DNR order?

If the person’s heart or breathing has stopped, there is a valid DNR order and the patient does not want treatment, paramedics and EMTs will not try to restart the heart or breathing.

The types of treatments that a patient with a DNR order would not receive include cardiopulmonary resuscitation (chest compressions and mouth-to-mouth breathing, or CPR), electric shocks to the heart, assisted breathing with mechanical devices, or the use of medications intended to start the heart again. (A person would not be placed on life support, such as a ventilator or a breathing machine).

http://healthdisasteroc.org/ems/issues/dnr#1203

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87-year-old woman who supposedly didn't want CPR got CPR regardless [View all] HiPointDem Mar 2013 OP

I think this is emblematic of "corporatist ethics"-- i.e., no ethics at all. hlthe2b Mar 2013 #1

i agree. but apparently it's the wave of the future, as a number of supposed 'democrats' think HiPointDem Mar 2013 #2

Dozens of democrats, trilling about how the woman 'got the peaceful natural death she wanted' HiPointDem Mar 2013 #4

k and r--and you are correct, that vision of dying in corporate arms is creepy. and, didn't a niyad Mar 2013 #3

it seems we're in the minority. i'd like to pee on a few people too. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #5

It is horrible that they are allowed to do this. WCLinolVir Mar 2013 #6

i am mocking people on other threads who keep insisting seniors shouldn't be given cpr because HiPointDem Mar 2013 #7

and kick HiPointDem Mar 2013 #8

"but won't say whether or not she was a nurse," dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #9

They *do* have nurses at this facility, lots of them. If this woman wasn't a nurse, why HiPointDem Mar 2013 #10

Please link me to a story which says definitively 'she was not a nurse' which includes the source HiPointDem Mar 2013 #11

ABC news, here: halfway down the page dixiegrrrrl Mar 2013 #12

The staff member was "serving in the capacity of a resident services director, not as a nurse," HiPointDem Mar 2013 #13

How much of a profit do they make on that $2500 monthly fee with no medical services? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #14

They aren't doing a very good job as a business madville Mar 2013 #18

k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #15

kick HiPointDem Mar 2013 #16

My grandmother lived in one of these for a few years before she moved in with my aunt dsc Mar 2013 #17

as you say, independent living = healthy elderly. so that would preclude dementia i'd think. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #19