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In reply to the discussion: Why do some on the Left keep saying that Pres. Obama is "center-right"? [View all]bananas
(27,509 posts)25. The Political Compass: 2008
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008
US Presidential Election 2008

This chart was constructed on the basis of the speeches, public statements and , crucially, the voting records of each of the candidates. During the election campaign, we'll be tweaking their positions as, inevitably, some of them change. We'll also be adding other charts as the campaign continues.
When examining the chart it's important to note that although most of the candidates seem quite different, in substance they occupy a relatively restricted area within the universal political spectrum. Democracies with a system of proportional representation give expression to a wider range of political views. While Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader are depicted on the extreme left in an American context, they would simply be mainstream social democrats within the wider political landscape of Europe. Similarly, Obama is popularly perceived as a leftist in the United States while elsewhere in the west his record is that of a moderate conservative. For example, in the case of the death penalty he is not an uncompromising abolitionist, while mainstream conservatives in all other western democracies are deeply opposed to capital punishment. The Democratic party's presidential candidate also reneged on his commitment to oppose the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. He sided with the ultra conservative bloc in the Supreme Court against the Washington DC handgun ban and for capital punishment in child rape cases. He supports President Bush's faith-based initiatives and is reported in Fortune to have said that NAFTA isn't so bad. Despite all this, some angry emailers tell us that Obama is a dangerous socialist who belongs on the extreme left of our chart. In an apparently close race, genuine leftists McKinney and Nader may attract sufficient votes from Obama to deliver McCain to the Oval Office.
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US Presidential Election 2008

This chart was constructed on the basis of the speeches, public statements and , crucially, the voting records of each of the candidates. During the election campaign, we'll be tweaking their positions as, inevitably, some of them change. We'll also be adding other charts as the campaign continues.
When examining the chart it's important to note that although most of the candidates seem quite different, in substance they occupy a relatively restricted area within the universal political spectrum. Democracies with a system of proportional representation give expression to a wider range of political views. While Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader are depicted on the extreme left in an American context, they would simply be mainstream social democrats within the wider political landscape of Europe. Similarly, Obama is popularly perceived as a leftist in the United States while elsewhere in the west his record is that of a moderate conservative. For example, in the case of the death penalty he is not an uncompromising abolitionist, while mainstream conservatives in all other western democracies are deeply opposed to capital punishment. The Democratic party's presidential candidate also reneged on his commitment to oppose the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. He sided with the ultra conservative bloc in the Supreme Court against the Washington DC handgun ban and for capital punishment in child rape cases. He supports President Bush's faith-based initiatives and is reported in Fortune to have said that NAFTA isn't so bad. Despite all this, some angry emailers tell us that Obama is a dangerous socialist who belongs on the extreme left of our chart. In an apparently close race, genuine leftists McKinney and Nader may attract sufficient votes from Obama to deliver McCain to the Oval Office.
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Why do some on the Left keep saying that Pres. Obama is "center-right"? [View all]
Jamaal510
Mar 2013
OP
Our US History teacher, in the 70's, said that if you go far enough left then you're right.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2013
#1
Because everything has moved extreme right in the past 30 years. He is left of the most extreme
BlueStreak
Mar 2013
#2
That isn't exactly how I see it. The NRA thing has laid bare the state of our "democracy"
BlueStreak
Mar 2013
#51
Banning private health insurance isn't left-wing, it's just authoritarian.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2013
#36
Not to mention that France has a two tiered system where 80% of citizens buy private insurance to
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#61
maybe things like "...I would be considered a moderate Republican"- Obama
green for victory
Mar 2013
#8
Noam Chomsky: Obama Would Have Been Called a 'Moderate Republican' in Recent Decades
bananas
Mar 2013
#23
Two of our greatest Presidents were moderate republicans, Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt.
bluestate10
Mar 2013
#42
Because, in so doing, they subtract "the Left" from his base, thusly forcing BO to the right, which
patrice
Mar 2013
#31
He is centre-right; as was Bill Clinton, as is the Democratic Party, generally.
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2013
#40
Left vs right is really not relevant, Obama and the DNC are pragmatists not measured that way
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#48