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In reply to the discussion: State single payer moving right along [View all]RC
(25,592 posts)3. How can we be the Greatest nation on earth, if we can't/won't even take care of our own citizens?
Every other industrialized nation has a form of Universal Health Care. None of those other countries want to go back to what they had before. And for sure, absolutely none of them want what we have now for health care in this country.
So why is it so hard to go with the most obvious, the most humane course of action, which is what every other industrialized nation on the planet has already done? Single Payer, Universal Health Care. The hard work has already been done by these countries. All we have to do is cherry pick what works. What is so hard about that?
Health care in other countries is a social service. Here in the United States, it's big business. Your money or your life. No money? Die and get out of the way for someone with money.
We have NO real health care system care in this country. What we do have is a for profit, patchwork of coverage for some people, if they can afford it that is, and literally nothing for many millions of others. If you are too sick to work regularly or to maintain a job that does provide health insurance, then you will have most likely not be able to afford health insurance. And you most likely will remain too sick to work. That is a terrible cycle and one that this country MUST eliminate.
Why do we stand for this shoddy treatment when other governments actually take care of their people? I do not understand. For starts, what we need to do is what other governments have done decades ago. And that was to prohibit the "Your Money or Your Life" health insurance companies from covering general health care. Why do we still allow this?
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So why is it so hard to go with the most obvious, the most humane course of action, which is what every other industrialized nation on the planet has already done? Single Payer, Universal Health Care. The hard work has already been done by these countries. All we have to do is cherry pick what works. What is so hard about that?
Health care in other countries is a social service. Here in the United States, it's big business. Your money or your life. No money? Die and get out of the way for someone with money.
We have NO real health care system care in this country. What we do have is a for profit, patchwork of coverage for some people, if they can afford it that is, and literally nothing for many millions of others. If you are too sick to work regularly or to maintain a job that does provide health insurance, then you will have most likely not be able to afford health insurance. And you most likely will remain too sick to work. That is a terrible cycle and one that this country MUST eliminate.
Why do we stand for this shoddy treatment when other governments actually take care of their people? I do not understand. For starts, what we need to do is what other governments have done decades ago. And that was to prohibit the "Your Money or Your Life" health insurance companies from covering general health care. Why do we still allow this?
RC
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But at the same time, the NY legislature is defunding programs for the disabed, so I don't
Squinch
Mar 2013
#47
How can we be the Greatest nation on earth, if we can't/won't even take care of our own citizens?
RC
Mar 2013
#3
Even if they say you need to be a resident are they then going to leave these people on the side
dkf
Mar 2013
#30
Countries that actually have single-payer generally provide true emergency care only to foreigners
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2013
#18
Exactly. Though many might be tempted to visit a "Single Payer" State for treatment...
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
#20
Presumably, there could be a residency requirement. But you also have to think of the size
jeff47
Mar 2013
#24
Single payer is going to happen. Our current system has been a mess, providing miniscule coverage
mother earth
Mar 2013
#12
Even faster, if all the army medics were trained to become nurse practitioners or physician's
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2013
#19
I'm talking about nurse-practitioners and PA's, who can perform routine checkups and treat minor
Lydia Leftcoast
Mar 2013
#43
And our dumb state (WI) is gutting our once great public health insurance program
AllyCat
Mar 2013
#21
Paying my health insurance is crushing our family business. The premiums are INSANE.
KittyWampus
Mar 2013
#22
way to go NY. Here in Co. our new Democratic majority is moving gun regulation
mountain grammy
Mar 2013
#29
And will some doctors be able to opt out altogether, like they can with Medicaid? n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#57
Only if they don't want any patients except for those wealthy enough to opt out n/t
eridani
Mar 2013
#58
The Federal Court has ruled you can become a resident of a state within 30 days
happyslug
Mar 2013
#45