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Lydia Leftcoast

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19. Even faster, if all the army medics were trained to become nurse practitioners or physician's

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:15 AM

Mar 2013

assistants, we could set up clinics for routine, non-emergency care (check-ups, minor injuries, immunizations, minor illnesses) all over the country.

I wonder how many nurses and PA's, hell, even MD's, could have been trained tuition-free for the cost of the Iraq War. At $250 million a day, quite a few.

An acquaintance of mine who has lived in Israel said that they train as many doctors as possible tuition free, so that there's no shortage and so the new MD's don't graduate with a huge debt burden. They are therefore willing to accept lower fees than U.S. doctors. Furthermore, everyone is covered by a basic medical policy but is urged to buy insurance for extras such as elective surgery, a private room, etc.

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State single payer moving right along [View all] eridani Mar 2013 OP

How likely is this to pass? drm604 Mar 2013 #1

I'd imagine that something like this will take a lot of time to pass Victor_c3 Mar 2013 #4

When it happens, companies will FLOOD in to "create jobs".. SoCalDem Mar 2013 #54

Make it happen with Health Care for All--PA eridani Mar 2013 #6

It won't happen with our current state government. drm604 Mar 2013 #23

I think it's very likely to pass in NY State.... ReRe Mar 2013 #55

All I can say is "wow!" Victor_c3 Mar 2013 #2

But at the same time, the NY legislature is defunding programs for the disabed, so I don't Squinch Mar 2013 #47

How can we be the Greatest nation on earth, if we can't/won't even take care of our own citizens? RC Mar 2013 #3

Agreed Plucketeer Mar 2013 #25

You're not serious about that "greates nation on earth" nonsense are you? xtraxritical Mar 2013 #50

Well, we could rightfully claim that at one time RC Mar 2013 #53

What time was that, before the Europeans got here? xtraxritical Mar 2013 #59

Sounds about right. RC Mar 2013 #61

That's all you got from my post? RC Mar 2013 #62

Wow. ananda Mar 2013 #5

Check out state chapters of Physicians for a National Health Program eridani Mar 2013 #7

Well that state used to be my state of Calif. Left Coast2020 Mar 2013 #56

Wouldn't single payer in one state lead to reverse cherry-picking? Jim Lane Mar 2013 #8

Most state single payer bills have residency requirements n/t eridani Mar 2013 #9

And how difficult is that? dkf Mar 2013 #11

If you had to be a resident for two years to qualify... thesquanderer Mar 2013 #46

Not to mention which, single payer doesn't give people jobs or housing n/t eridani Mar 2013 #51

That's what I am wondering. dkf Mar 2013 #10

Of course you were Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #28

Even if they say you need to be a resident are they then going to leave these people on the side dkf Mar 2013 #30

That's exactly what's happening in Vermont right now Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #36

If they want to take that on more power to them. dkf Mar 2013 #39

But such elderly people are 100% covered by Medicare and Medicaid. happyslug Mar 2013 #44

Vermont has not yet implemented single-payer. Jim Lane Mar 2013 #49

Just speculating here, but I don't think that it would be unmanagable Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #13

Countries that actually have single-payer generally provide true emergency care only to foreigners Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #18

Exactly. Though many might be tempted to visit a "Single Payer" State for treatment... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #20

Or you could be desperate. dkf Mar 2013 #31

Yes. It might make sense for many but human nature being what it is... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #34

You'd have to qualify to be a resident The Blue Flower Mar 2013 #17

Presumably, there could be a residency requirement. But you also have to think of the size jeff47 Mar 2013 #24

Yes, that would be tragic. (Not.) eggplant Mar 2013 #42

There's no call to make your analogy to slavery. Jim Lane Mar 2013 #48

Single payer is going to happen. Our current system has been a mess, providing miniscule coverage mother earth Mar 2013 #12

Watching Dan Rather this morning, he was speaking of all of the dotymed Mar 2013 #14

Even faster, if all the army medics were trained to become nurse practitioners or physician's Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #19

Do we have a nurse shortage? dkf Mar 2013 #32

I'm talking about nurse-practitioners and PA's, who can perform routine checkups and treat minor Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #43

hooray riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #15

Gun control, fracking, single payer... bluedigger Mar 2013 #16

Very good things theKed Mar 2013 #33

Do they have a supermajority? bluedigger Mar 2013 #35

I'm not sure theKed Mar 2013 #37

And our dumb state (WI) is gutting our once great public health insurance program AllyCat Mar 2013 #21

Paying my health insurance is crushing our family business. The premiums are INSANE. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #22

This is fucking awesome! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #26

++++++++! BrotherIvan Mar 2013 #27

I've never understood that, either. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #41

way to go NY. Here in Co. our new Democratic majority is moving gun regulation mountain grammy Mar 2013 #29

I was hopeful of this.... Wounded Bear Mar 2013 #38

How does this work with different doctors charging different rates? pnwmom Mar 2013 #40

Under global budgeting, health care providers would negotiate yearly with the eridani Mar 2013 #52

And will some doctors be able to opt out altogether, like they can with Medicaid? n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #57

Only if they don't want any patients except for those wealthy enough to opt out n/t eridani Mar 2013 #58

The Federal Court has ruled you can become a resident of a state within 30 days happyslug Mar 2013 #45

Kick for progressive change Politicub Mar 2013 #60

Kick Quantess Mar 2013 #63

Assembly Health Chair: 2013 �A Superb Year� To Pass Single-Payer Insurance eridani Mar 2013 #64