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49. Not to mention that we do not have any evidence that any of the claims made

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 10:33 AM

Mar 2013

about these people are true. We have no due process anymore, so the government can simply throw out a few names with allegations and because of the great job done during the Bush years of creating terror in the hearts of Americans against anyone with a Muslim-sounding name, they don't ask questions anymore.

I guess I'm a bit strange, I like to see proof of such serious allegations and I like the idea of charges being filed and trials being provided where the evidence is laid out for all to see. Trusting Governments with such life and death situations is a very dangerous thing to do as history has shown, over and over again.

War is profitable and they now found a way to be permanently at war. It is brilliant, we will never win, because they don't want to win.

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My beef with drones is not the boogey-man "on US soil", it's Obama's Bush-Lite Doctrine [View all] morningfog Mar 2013 OP

The USS Cole, our African embassies, WTC '93 Kolesar Mar 2013 #1

Which of Obama's strikes targeted participants of each of those? morningfog Mar 2013 #2

Recently? Good grief. Fahd al Quso, killed May 2012. Robb Mar 2013 #25

3-4 thousand people killed by drone strikes so far n2doc Mar 2013 #30

Not at all. Read the question asked. Robb Mar 2013 #31

Not to mention that we do not have any evidence that any of the claims made sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #49

600,000 dead BO 08 Mar 2013 #82

My beef is Porterhouse or Rib Eye...however I am on a Wellness Program the last year... graham4anything Mar 2013 #3

Who said jack shit about 3rd parties or Rand. You have a strange obssession morningfog Mar 2013 #5

The repertoire of "defense" is limited woo me with science Mar 2013 #37

C Bonobo Mar 2013 #6

LOL! Yep. Somebody's got snakes on their plane. nt Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #11

Don't start that lark again dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #15

THANK YOU!!!! Bonobo Mar 2013 #4

When Bush made his power grabs, we asked "how can we challenge this?" morningfog Mar 2013 #7

Wrongo. That is one helleva sleight of hand worthy of David Copperfield. graham4anything Mar 2013 #8

Read up on the unitary executive. That should help you. morningfog Mar 2013 #14

Too bad you apparently weren't around when it all started. What a sad post. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #50

And as usual you (or the character you play here) don't know what the fuck you're talking about. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #64

What this guy ^ said. bvar22 Mar 2013 #75

Sadly, too many never ask, even in the face of obvious, "WTF are they thinking?" RC Mar 2013 #26

I totally agree with you Janecita Mar 2013 #33

very succinct and right on! choie Mar 2013 #40

Well said. nt woo me with science Mar 2013 #39

Amen. 840high Mar 2013 #46

It stands to reason Deny and Shred Mar 2013 #9

Well, now...that's a good point onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #12

We're already on North Korea's "radar" TommyCelt Mar 2013 #17

We already protect international terrorists! Janecita Mar 2013 #36

What if a terrorist like OBL that isnt an American citizen but just on American soil. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #68

Why would they need a drone? BO 08 Mar 2013 #83

Of course it will never be used in an illegal fashion. Trust big brother. Drink the kool-aide. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #84

I gave financial support to a Terrorist Organization in the 70s. bvar22 Mar 2013 #76

At least you are aware that the program existed prior to yesterday morning. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #10

Obama makes moderate Republican ideas look CLASSY and don't you forget it, mister! Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #13

I know, let's all go and instead of Hillary/Napolitano who will win in 2016, graham4anything Mar 2013 #16

cult of personality fascisthunter Mar 2013 #27

C graham4anything Mar 2013 #28

You do like torturers and enablers, don't you? idwiyo Mar 2013 #77

i agree. on us soil or foreign soil, same difference to me. on foreign soil is actually worse in HiPointDem Mar 2013 #18

If it was ProSense Mar 2013 #19

Killing people on foreign soil dotymed Mar 2013 #20

I agree existentialist Mar 2013 #21

I disagree that this is a "Bush" Doctrine alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #22

Why are killing people around the world to begin with? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #53

I spent no time justifying anything alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #56

Yes, you are correct, my apologies. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #59

Clinton briefed some members of Congress before the Sudan and Afghanistan strikes alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #67

The US has been pre-emptively killing people on foreign soil for quite some time.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #23

It's Pathetic that This Post even Needs to be Posted fascisthunter Mar 2013 #24

Thank you. woo me with science Mar 2013 #34

+1 nt Zorra Mar 2013 #80

My prediction 90-percent Mar 2013 #29

+10000 woo me with science Mar 2013 #35

This story makes that case Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #61

K&R, but it's not "lite" in any sense of the word. woo me with science Mar 2013 #32

"He has escalated the corporate, neocon, police/surveillance state. " ProSense Mar 2013 #38

Nope. No "lite" there. Fuddnik Mar 2013 #43

Stateless Terrorism Andy Stanton Mar 2013 #41

Search warrants are a hassle too... think Mar 2013 #47

Seems whomever is president think Mar 2013 #42

BINGO!!!!! Fuddnik Mar 2013 #44

Please respond to post #22 elias7 Mar 2013 #45

Any of the others has more substance than post "#22 bahrbearian Mar 2013 #48

Actually alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #51

Code Pink; DU leftists; etc.) ? bahrbearian Mar 2013 #54

Not true alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #57

My Apologies bahrbearian Mar 2013 #58

DUers like being obtusers...eom Kolesar Mar 2013 #52

Often issues seem like they split people into an emotional dichotomy elias7 Mar 2013 #62

Maybe it's the pheromes from the urine they track back from the lavatory Kolesar Mar 2013 #65

Calling America's enemies "boogey men" is Alex Jones territory. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #55

You misread. morningfog Mar 2013 #60

Whar ever happened to THIS guy? bvar22 Mar 2013 #63

I guess we would have to know what he meant by "imminent". nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #69

Yep. bvar22 Mar 2013 #71

The irony of the domino theory is that it looks like Communist China is a bigger threat since rhett o rick Mar 2013 #73

That's campaign Obama, silly. woo me with science Mar 2013 #72

The drones are used as PR so the bosses don't have to admit to losing another war. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #66

I think drone strikes are acts of war alarimer Mar 2013 #70

If you are going to take that attitude, define "war". rhett o rick Mar 2013 #74

Drone strikes are acts of state sanctioned terrorism, IMNSHO. idwiyo Mar 2013 #79

Too bad Bush didnt just use a drone to take out Sadam Hussein. DCBob Mar 2013 #78

How would that be a good idea? You do know that morningfog Mar 2013 #81

You do know that most people agreed getting rid of Hussein was a good idea.. DCBob Mar 2013 #85