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RC

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55. You're both wrong.

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:08 PM

Mar 2013

The best way to save Social Security is to get our Living Wage jobs back into this country, so people make enough to pay into Social Security in the first place.
Just raising the S/S Cap only delays the inevitable. I'm not saying it is a bad idea, it's not, but without the Living Wage Jobs for the rest of us, it is only diddling with the symptoms and makes the 'surplus' more attractive, because there is more money in it. Isn't 30+ years enough? We need to be looking the people Social Security was implemented for and work from there. We are looking at the wrong end of things here. 30+ years gives us plenty of time to develop any viable solutions that may be needed - If they are needed.

An aside, but related question -
If Corporations are people, why aren't they paying into Social Security? Why can't corporations collect Social Security?

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Sanders, Reid, DeFazio Introduce Legislation to Strengthen Social Security [View all] ProSense Mar 2013 OP

Awesome! I Know It Will Never Make It Through The House Currently, But Now That This Is Out There Skraxx Mar 2013 #1

Yup! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #2

If they take it to the PEOPLE, and take to the AIRWAVES and social media, it will loudsue Mar 2013 #37

It won't survive a filibuster either. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #5

So it's really just for show. AlbertCat Mar 2013 #19

Cool. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #21

If you like theater by all means enjoy the show. AlbertCat Mar 2013 #25

It's A Good Show, And Useful In Helping to Move the Debate Skraxx Mar 2013 #40

Good. I eagerly await President Obama throwing his support behind this legislation. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #3

Me too.... tokenlib Mar 2013 #10

Me three. But I think we'll have a long wait. forestpath Mar 2013 #23

That was the last thing that came to mind... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2013 #34

He has already publicly thrown his support behind chained CPI, NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #39

Yup, I know. My "eagerly" was snark. MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #56

I don't see him supporting anything unless Goldman Sachs gets a piece of the action. GoneFishin Mar 2013 #54

Where's the sarcasm thingie? lark Mar 2013 #57

Good on Reid, Sanders, and De Fazio Cha Mar 2013 #4

You are kicked and Rec'd, ProSense! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #6

Ah, "strengthen" in the actual, literal sense of the word. How refreshing! Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #7

I applaud this effort, but ... Scuba Mar 2013 #8

Kick! ananda Mar 2013 #9

Good that this was introduced. MineralMan Mar 2013 #11

Now wonder the ReThugs want to privatize SS. Auntie Bush Mar 2013 #12

This is such great news! TheProgressive Mar 2013 #13

Unfortunately, it will be DOA. The wealthy never pay their fair share for anything.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #14

Good. K&R nt abelenkpe Mar 2013 #15

This is why we so need to get our side out in record numbers Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #16

THIS riqster Mar 2013 #46

Klobuchar and Franken reteachinwi Mar 2013 #17

So will those paying more also receive a larger check when they start drawing SS? 1KansasDem Mar 2013 #18

I heard about one version that would pay up to $150K a year out for higher contributors. airplaneman Mar 2013 #22

a whopping k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #20

Wonderful!!!!! And let's use a little of the money to help the JDPriestly Mar 2013 #24

I do agree that we should help the homeless; however juajen Mar 2013 #61

Why they didn't do this when the Democrats controlled Congress? n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2013 #26

It's been a long time since Dems truly controlled Congress riqster Mar 2013 #47

Very good question. I would love to see an answer for this. juajen Mar 2013 #62

Ok, DUers, we have a bill to strengthen SS - where are the 200+ DU Recs?????????? TheProgressive Mar 2013 #27

Kick! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #29

This is what Democrats should be doing... Jasana Mar 2013 #28

It doesn't strengthen Social security. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #30

Yes, it does. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #31

nope. just another step toward undermining it. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #32

Nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #33

We've had this discussion before. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #35

Agree. ananda Mar 2013 #36

Really? ProSense Mar 2013 #38

You're both wrong. RC Mar 2013 #55

+ infinity: "The best way to save Social Security is to get our Living Wage jobs back" magellan Mar 2013 #63

Actually, ProSense Mar 2013 #66

People who make over $125,000 per year aren't "labor". It's a ridiculous argument. nt Romulox Mar 2013 #43

Enter DU's defender of top earners. She's VERY CONCERNED about removing the cap! nt Romulox Mar 2013 #42

President Obama John2 Mar 2013 #41

DINGDINGDING! We have a winner! riqster Mar 2013 #49

Several DUers *passionately* oppose Sen. Sanders on this, but not one is articulate as to why. Romulox Mar 2013 #44

Because it represents a populist solution, NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #48

I guess I have gotten behind on my reading here Samantha Mar 2013 #50

Hopefully my K&R will only be one of many as this is what we have always needed. jwirr Mar 2013 #45

He'd probably be too old, duffyduff Mar 2013 #51

Agree with you about DeFazio. classof56 Mar 2013 #59

I moved back to Jackson County from Nevada about three years ago, and duffyduff Mar 2013 #60

C'mon Obama - step up! grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #52

Show your support, go sign petition Milliesmom Mar 2013 #53

Thanks. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #64

This: CrispyQ Mar 2013 #58

Good for them. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #65