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uppityperson

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21. Do only men assault women? And wtf does this have to do with transgender?

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 04:03 PM

Mar 2013

Quick search, first result:
Man assaults man
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/eye-on-baseball/20151091/alleged-bathroom-assault-during-dodgers-giants-game-leads-to-arrest

Maybe they should work on making rest rooms safe for everyone rather than focusing on the genitals of people in them? And wtf does this have to do with transgender since NONE of the cases you site are about that?

"How do they know whether the masculine-looking person entering the ladies room is an innocent non-transitioned transgender woman or a violent straight man looking for a woman to corner? "

How do they know whether the woman entering is an innocent woman or a violent woman looking for someone to corner. "I do NOT think that true transgender girls and women (i.e., sincerely identifying as women) are a risk to other women." Women do not assault women? What? Seriously? I do not know of cases of transgendered women attacking other women but sure as shit women assault other women.

Many places have non-gender specific toilets and I do not recall stories of them having problems. The problem is making toilets more hospitable for all.

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When progressive values clash: the problem of safety in ladies' rooms [View all] pnwmom Mar 2013 OP

Have men been dressing up as women in order to attack women in the bathroom? ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #1

Not all transgender females wear dresses or look "girly." And the issue isn't whether pnwmom Mar 2013 #2

Excellent points. My solution.... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #3

I don't think we're going to have a universal remodeling of bathrooms anytime soon. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #4

I will cop to not being in women's rooms ever dsc Mar 2013 #6

we have unisex restrooms where I live notadmblnd Mar 2013 #52

Likely not. It's an interesting topic Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #38

I would rather hunker down behind a bush behind the mall than use a multi-gender Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #56

Do you live alone? Have you ever had a male visit your house? What did you do then? uppityperson Mar 2013 #61

They use the bathroom down the hall with the door closed...they go into a separate room. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #62

So if you have to urinate, you send them down the hall to another room and have them close the door? uppityperson Mar 2013 #64

When one of my employees began the transition in the early 1990's, restrooms were a BIG issue. s-cubed Mar 2013 #5

I don't think the girls at that school should be forced to use the bathroom... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #57

If you, as an adult, can not write PENIS or VAGINA, on a forum for adults, I am stumped. How about uppityperson Mar 2013 #59

I am speaking in the terms of young children. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #70

Are you saying parents decided to "let" their child be transgender? And because they are "different" uppityperson Mar 2013 #72

If you are a girl or a woman, you go into a stall and shut the door. No one sees anything. Ant s-cubed Mar 2013 #69

In a perfect world, yes. I don't know where a perfect world exists. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #71

You want her to be restricted to her own toilet so others won't bully her. Wow. uppityperson Mar 2013 #73

A silouette of a woman in a dress keeps rapists and thieves from entering a space? Iris Mar 2013 #7

Correct jberryhill Mar 2013 #8

No. But when people who look like men are seen entering ladies rooms, pnwmom Mar 2013 #9

If someone sees them, they get reported to security. Iris Mar 2013 #10

Women have been assaulted in bathrooms that aren't in isolated places. And besides, pnwmom Mar 2013 #11

They've been assaulted by transgender women? MineralMan Mar 2013 #23

You didn't read the OP. That's not what I said or implied. pnwmom Mar 2013 #33

2 interesting articles. Woman assaults a woman in br and about transgender in br bigotry uppityperson Mar 2013 #24

Do you mean how can we tell a transgendered woman from a man looking to hurt us? uppityperson Mar 2013 #28

I don't think there is a good way to reliably distinguish pnwmom Mar 2013 #50

Can you ever answer a question? Will you? Edited to address your "less safe" issue. uppityperson Mar 2013 #58

Maybe men shouldn't assault women in the bathroom. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #12

I agree. I don't think it has anything HappyMe Mar 2013 #13

Same here. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #15

These people are mtf also. HappyMe Mar 2013 #19

Thank you. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #30

I'm not worried about transgender folks attacking me anywhere Lex Mar 2013 #14

None of your examples illustrate a situation where MineralMan Mar 2013 #16

The OP tying this issue to transgendered people is not cool. nt Lex Mar 2013 #17

That was my reaction, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #20

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #22

I agree whole heartedly. HappyMe Mar 2013 #27

I'm really not fond of it either Aerows Mar 2013 #40

I don't agree that this is any kind of real problem. redqueen Mar 2013 #18

Do only men assault women? And wtf does this have to do with transgender? uppityperson Mar 2013 #21

Can you give me links reporting a woman raping a woman in a public restroom? n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #35

I thought you were talking about assault. Here is one about assault. uppityperson Mar 2013 #36

I've been in the restroom when someone who was transsgendered has come in gollygee Mar 2013 #25

I think you are saying how can we tell is it is a legitimate transgendered woman or a man looking uppityperson Mar 2013 #26

Are you saying that we should be concerned about men, who are not in the Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #29

I'd like clarification too. I think she is saying we don't know so should be scared of everyone uppityperson Mar 2013 #31

ONE - I fucking hate the word 'ciswoman'. It sounds like a disease. Matariki Mar 2013 #32

I never said transgender women pose a risk to other woman. I explicitly said they did not. pnwmom Mar 2013 #34

Perhaps your OP wasn't as clear as you think Matariki Mar 2013 #41

I don't know why you find it offensive.It's a term that is used in college classes in gender studies pnwmom Mar 2013 #45

And IF what you're saying is that you're afraid a man will dress as a woman to sneak into a restroom Matariki Mar 2013 #42

Transgender females don't always wear dresses and skirts anymore than women who are born female do. pnwmom Mar 2013 #46

Be afraid of everyone-- Lex Mar 2013 #47

The threat of rape and assault is all too real for women and girls. pnwmom Mar 2013 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Lex Mar 2013 #54

Which is why they should be allowed to be in the women's room. Or why we should make all unisex uppityperson Mar 2013 #65

That's a really difficult issue to address. Transgenders of either side should be free... talkingmime Mar 2013 #37

I don't really get this Aerows Mar 2013 #39

Porcelain placement doesn't care about identity, only physiology. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #43

And watch as trans-women get bullied and attacked... backscatter712 Mar 2013 #51

What do your stories of men lurking in bathrooms dressed as men have to do with trans people? Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #44

The bathroom thing is nothing more than right-wing scare-tactics. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #49

When I was a bartender, we had a cross dressing man come in, sometimes as Cleita Mar 2013 #53

I think when an epidemic of men start dressing up as women to commit bathroom crimes Prism Mar 2013 #55

Thanks so much for your great concern! Zorra Mar 2013 #60

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #68

This sounds similar to supporting the idea of facilities separated by skin color. uppityperson Mar 2013 #63

Don't all the womens bathrooms have a door.. snooper2 Mar 2013 #66

Yup. nt uppityperson Mar 2013 #67