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Aerows

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40. I'm really not fond of it either

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:14 PM

Mar 2013

Some people want to stir up a hornet's nest by pretending to be "concerned" about something that if they just exercised some common sense and judgment wouldn't be an issue at all.

I don't like what is being implied by the OP whatsoever, and this "concern" is ridiculous.

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When progressive values clash: the problem of safety in ladies' rooms [View all] pnwmom Mar 2013 OP

Have men been dressing up as women in order to attack women in the bathroom? ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #1

Not all transgender females wear dresses or look "girly." And the issue isn't whether pnwmom Mar 2013 #2

Excellent points. My solution.... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #3

I don't think we're going to have a universal remodeling of bathrooms anytime soon. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #4

I will cop to not being in women's rooms ever dsc Mar 2013 #6

we have unisex restrooms where I live notadmblnd Mar 2013 #52

Likely not. It's an interesting topic Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #38

I would rather hunker down behind a bush behind the mall than use a multi-gender Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #56

Do you live alone? Have you ever had a male visit your house? What did you do then? uppityperson Mar 2013 #61

They use the bathroom down the hall with the door closed...they go into a separate room. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #62

So if you have to urinate, you send them down the hall to another room and have them close the door? uppityperson Mar 2013 #64

When one of my employees began the transition in the early 1990's, restrooms were a BIG issue. s-cubed Mar 2013 #5

I don't think the girls at that school should be forced to use the bathroom... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #57

If you, as an adult, can not write PENIS or VAGINA, on a forum for adults, I am stumped. How about uppityperson Mar 2013 #59

I am speaking in the terms of young children. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #70

Are you saying parents decided to "let" their child be transgender? And because they are "different" uppityperson Mar 2013 #72

If you are a girl or a woman, you go into a stall and shut the door. No one sees anything. Ant s-cubed Mar 2013 #69

In a perfect world, yes. I don't know where a perfect world exists. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #71

You want her to be restricted to her own toilet so others won't bully her. Wow. uppityperson Mar 2013 #73

A silouette of a woman in a dress keeps rapists and thieves from entering a space? Iris Mar 2013 #7

Correct jberryhill Mar 2013 #8

No. But when people who look like men are seen entering ladies rooms, pnwmom Mar 2013 #9

If someone sees them, they get reported to security. Iris Mar 2013 #10

Women have been assaulted in bathrooms that aren't in isolated places. And besides, pnwmom Mar 2013 #11

They've been assaulted by transgender women? MineralMan Mar 2013 #23

You didn't read the OP. That's not what I said or implied. pnwmom Mar 2013 #33

2 interesting articles. Woman assaults a woman in br and about transgender in br bigotry uppityperson Mar 2013 #24

Do you mean how can we tell a transgendered woman from a man looking to hurt us? uppityperson Mar 2013 #28

I don't think there is a good way to reliably distinguish pnwmom Mar 2013 #50

Can you ever answer a question? Will you? Edited to address your "less safe" issue. uppityperson Mar 2013 #58

Maybe men shouldn't assault women in the bathroom. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #12

I agree. I don't think it has anything HappyMe Mar 2013 #13

Same here. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #15

These people are mtf also. HappyMe Mar 2013 #19

Thank you. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #30

I'm not worried about transgender folks attacking me anywhere Lex Mar 2013 #14

None of your examples illustrate a situation where MineralMan Mar 2013 #16

The OP tying this issue to transgendered people is not cool. nt Lex Mar 2013 #17

That was my reaction, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #20

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #22

I agree whole heartedly. HappyMe Mar 2013 #27

I'm really not fond of it either Aerows Mar 2013 #40

I don't agree that this is any kind of real problem. redqueen Mar 2013 #18

Do only men assault women? And wtf does this have to do with transgender? uppityperson Mar 2013 #21

Can you give me links reporting a woman raping a woman in a public restroom? n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #35

I thought you were talking about assault. Here is one about assault. uppityperson Mar 2013 #36

I've been in the restroom when someone who was transsgendered has come in gollygee Mar 2013 #25

I think you are saying how can we tell is it is a legitimate transgendered woman or a man looking uppityperson Mar 2013 #26

Are you saying that we should be concerned about men, who are not in the Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #29

I'd like clarification too. I think she is saying we don't know so should be scared of everyone uppityperson Mar 2013 #31

ONE - I fucking hate the word 'ciswoman'. It sounds like a disease. Matariki Mar 2013 #32

I never said transgender women pose a risk to other woman. I explicitly said they did not. pnwmom Mar 2013 #34

Perhaps your OP wasn't as clear as you think Matariki Mar 2013 #41

I don't know why you find it offensive.It's a term that is used in college classes in gender studies pnwmom Mar 2013 #45

And IF what you're saying is that you're afraid a man will dress as a woman to sneak into a restroom Matariki Mar 2013 #42

Transgender females don't always wear dresses and skirts anymore than women who are born female do. pnwmom Mar 2013 #46

Be afraid of everyone-- Lex Mar 2013 #47

The threat of rape and assault is all too real for women and girls. pnwmom Mar 2013 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author Lex Mar 2013 #54

Which is why they should be allowed to be in the women's room. Or why we should make all unisex uppityperson Mar 2013 #65

That's a really difficult issue to address. Transgenders of either side should be free... talkingmime Mar 2013 #37

I don't really get this Aerows Mar 2013 #39

Porcelain placement doesn't care about identity, only physiology. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #43

And watch as trans-women get bullied and attacked... backscatter712 Mar 2013 #51

What do your stories of men lurking in bathrooms dressed as men have to do with trans people? Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #44

The bathroom thing is nothing more than right-wing scare-tactics. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #49

When I was a bartender, we had a cross dressing man come in, sometimes as Cleita Mar 2013 #53

I think when an epidemic of men start dressing up as women to commit bathroom crimes Prism Mar 2013 #55

Thanks so much for your great concern! Zorra Mar 2013 #60

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #68

This sounds similar to supporting the idea of facilities separated by skin color. uppityperson Mar 2013 #63

Don't all the womens bathrooms have a door.. snooper2 Mar 2013 #66

Yup. nt uppityperson Mar 2013 #67