Stop Telling Women How to Not Get Raped

[Lordquinton]

295. Regardless of the cause, it is not the woman's fault

I think we can agree here. so when you say things like:

"I also have thrown in the fact that alcohol is the great stupefier and a significant contributor to acquaintance rape, because it leads to situations where both parties are incapable of acting sensibly. Which does not relieve anyone of guilt for crimes committed while intoxicated, but is a significant risk that people (primarily women) shouldn't overlook as part of an overall program of protecting themselves. "

It is confusing the issue, and blaming the woman for trying to relax and enjoy life. Unless you teach women to never be alone with a man, not their friends, not their boyfriend, not their husband, not their uncle, not their grandfather, not their brothers, not their father, then you aren't informing her of all the situations that can happen.

A lot of the objections to the OP tend to pass over this line:

"Telling women that they can behave in a certain way to avoid rape creates a false sense of security and it isn’t the most effective way to lower the horrible statistics which show that 1 in 5 women will become victims of a completed or attempted rape in their lifetime."

If we focus on teaching defense and prevention to women only, like has been done basically all through out history and still doesn't work, then the obvious conclusion is that she did something wrong. Sure, everybody knows it's wrong, and nobody you talk to would do it, but it happens, and you just looked at a site with "harrowing" statistics so obviously people are doing it, and quite a lot. A majority of the time as much blame gets put on the victim, or even the majority does. In court cases the girl is put on trial, the rape kits are very invasive, they get their character completely to shreds, and they often don't even want to take it to trial because they can't even be in the same room with the guy.

Think about it, you've even said yourself that there is nothing wrong with asking "Why did she go out alone?" which leads to "didn't she know she could have gotten raped?" well yea, she probably did, all the women I've talked to about the subject know that the very act of leaving the house could result in being raped. No matter what precautions they take the possibility is there. In fact I just found out that a friend of mine had her house broken into and, well you can guess, given the context.

The point that the OP is making is that teaching precaution DOESN'T WORK, it never has and, I'm not psychic, but I'll put money that it never will work to reduce it happening. Getting the message out that rape is wrong, if she can't say yes, then it's rape, and drill it into everyone's head that it is a crime, and we need to make it a society thing to not allow it from age 3 when Timmy pulls on Sally's hair, it's not "Oh, how cute he likes her" it's assault, and treating it as anything but sends that little boy the message that it's ok to treat girls like that (not saying he should be charged with a crime, saying he should be taught then and there) nothing will change.

I don't know if I satisfied your questions, but there's a lot of info to get out, and it's hard to splice it up.