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MH1

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137. Why the personal attack tone?

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:02 PM

Mar 2013

Actually, I have traveled, and do travel quite a bit. That's planned, and normally the body clock adjustment is accommodated. Mostly for vacation nowadays, anyway, so I can deal with the jet lag as I please. I avoid travel for work as much as possible now, for many reasons, but I don't miss having to deal with morning meetings after a long flight. (Not that it happened often when I traveled for work. Like I said, it's typically understood and planned around.)

Though I don't have to travel much for it anymore, my job doesn't change its hours for the time shift. And yes, in summer I do have to go to bed while it is still light out, or shortly after sunset. I don't know what time exactly that is, but it's mildly annoying. My point is there are probably lots of people who have it worse than me in that regard, so it seems kind of selfish that one group of people get their way while making life more difficult for others. But I've already said, I'm fine with leaving DST as the standard, and just not changing back and forth. Let's just adapt once and be done with it.

But ok, whatever. So I am kicking the thread and hopefully more people will see and sign the petition to do away with the idiotic practice of resetting the clocks twice a year. (now over 13,500! woo-hoo!)

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/eliminate-bi-annual-time-change-caused-daylight-savings-time/ShChxpKh

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Daylight saving time is one of the dumbest things we do. Who cares what time it gets dark [View all] RB TexLa Mar 2013 OP

Absolutely! roody Mar 2013 #1

I live in Alaska and it matters to me. It means that when I wake up its light. After six weeks or so roguevalley Mar 2013 #94

Golfers reteachinwi Mar 2013 #2

Guilty madville Mar 2013 #194

yeah it sucks and just messes with sleep JI7 Mar 2013 #3

Its original purpose was to save electricity Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #4

and how, exactly, was it saving electricity? niyad Mar 2013 #10

It shifted the time you'd have to burn your lights Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #13

if I am sleeping, I am not burning my lights, no matter what the clock says niyad Mar 2013 #18

It makes a difference to those who wake up from 5-7am Cooley Hurd Mar 2013 #23

Like if kids are standing in the dark 2pooped2pop Mar 2013 #119

Exactly.. kids and farmers.. it makes a BIG Difference. n/t Cha Mar 2013 #160

The only difference it makes for farmers is that it makes things harder. truebluegreen Mar 2013 #188

I know Oganic Farmers in New York who Cha Mar 2013 #190

My husband and I enjoy it without spending Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #192

Ihate getting up in the dark and I'm back to that again for a bit longer before it gets lighter CTyankee Mar 2013 #153

More than that even, shifts the load on electrical equipment since the work hours shift. Sirveri Mar 2013 #161

Actually that party animal, Ben Franklin came up with that idea to save candles. RC Mar 2013 #50

Nope AlbertCat Mar 2013 #74

The History of Daylight Saving Time RC Mar 2013 #81

Nope AlbertCat Mar 2013 #86

when I went to Spain I noticed it was dark at 8 am when I landed and it kinda freaked me CTyankee Mar 2013 #155

Actually, it was to promote shopping ... Scuba Mar 2013 #123

Yes--especially since I have somewhere to be tomorrow....early! nt MADem Mar 2013 #5

Retailers Blue4Texas Mar 2013 #6

please note that "they" are NOT "extending daylight hours. humans are not capable of creating niyad Mar 2013 #8

Magic trick and sleight of hand Blue4Texas Mar 2013 #17

I like it...stretches the outdoor activity time with my family... Tikki Mar 2013 #7

Yes. A nice walk in the evening after supper. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #73

I love it, I wish we would stay on it permanently n/t doc03 Mar 2013 #76

Sometimes when I got off work at 9 pm, there would still be sun out and.. Tikki Mar 2013 #85

I can go to the lake in the evening and get several hours of fishing doc03 Mar 2013 #147

It is such a 'spirit lifter' for me to have that extra sun... Tikki Mar 2013 #152

The rest of the nation should catch up with us here in Arizona. Leslie Valley Mar 2013 #9

It was the thing I loved most about Arizona Tumbulu Mar 2013 #101

Right ... GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #122

For us in the SW it burrowowl Mar 2013 #167

We woke up to pitch dark to get ready for school this morning meadowlark5 Mar 2013 #204

Yes it is for lower latitudes! burrowowl Mar 2013 #207

businesses. it is all about the $. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #11

yup. n/t progressoid Mar 2013 #35

There's the answer. Release The Hounds Mar 2013 #77

I love it proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #12

Exactly, I'll take DST over standard all year round, no problem. Lionessa Mar 2013 #16

Most people I know who hate the time change would be fine with that. MH1 Mar 2013 #24

That is it for me ... etherealtruth Mar 2013 #125

Agreed!!!!! .......that's what my cats do. meti57b Mar 2013 #149

Yes, me too- just pick one time Tumbulu Mar 2013 #169

+1,000,000 n/t duffyduff Mar 2013 #52

Then move West a time zone. RC Mar 2013 #53

Moving to a more western time zone won't help unless Lionessa Mar 2013 #82

But for people who have to get up early, and therefore have to go to bed well before 10:30 MH1 Mar 2013 #126

Oh my such exaggerations, "constant", and pretending the 10:30 I mentioned Lionessa Mar 2013 #136

Why the personal attack tone? MH1 Mar 2013 #137

I showed increduality to what you typed, not you personally. Lionessa Mar 2013 #156

You know it's just twice a year right? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #179

yes, moving would be easier than changing your clock. 2pooped2pop Mar 2013 #120

I'm down but would prefer making DST standard and still having DST (now two hours off standard) TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #176

I agree, as someone from the North Country wellstone dem Mar 2013 #19

If you're pushing the clock forward does that not mean it gets dark an hour earlier? xtraxritical Mar 2013 #87

If it's sunrise at 6 am on Saturday then with the clock change it's sunrise at 7 am lunatica Mar 2013 #199

me too. donheld Mar 2013 #113

Exactly! In Indiana, it stays light until after 9 in spring and after 10 in the beginning of summer NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #145

the phrase "an extra hour of daylight" makes me crazy. there is NO "extra hour of daylight"-- niyad Mar 2013 #14

Depending on where you live cojoel Mar 2013 #31

WE HAVE A WINNA!!!!1!! RC Mar 2013 #61

How does it force anyone to get up an hour earlier? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #180

Most people have jobs that have to be at by a certain time. RC Mar 2013 #187

Friday I needed to be at the office at 8:00am Bay Boy Mar 2013 #200

And in between those two days, you reset your clock one hour earlier. RC Mar 2013 #201

I think everybody gets that and... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #202

AFTER WORK Lex Mar 2013 #115

But there IS more daylight in the summer at northern latitudes jberryhill Mar 2013 #135

My Dad Used to Say Wolf Frankula Mar 2013 #173

If you don't care, why do you care? Takes less than a minute to handle, so why the fuss if you Lionessa Mar 2013 #15

Throws off the internal clock. MH1 Mar 2013 #20

Yes. That is the problem with DST. RebelOne Mar 2013 #34

A 1-hour change doesn't mess with a body's clock matt819 Mar 2013 #37

A 1-hour change doesn't mess with a body's clock AlbertCat Mar 2013 #79

It is terrible and should be stopped Tumbulu Mar 2013 #102

Sign the petition to do away with DST (or make it permanent year round): MH1 Mar 2013 #21

Signed and shared on Facebook Tumbulu Mar 2013 #104

Thank you!! nt MH1 Mar 2013 #130

I'm sorry, but how in the hell does this have 12,000 signatures? In just 4 days? AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #110

It's not trivial to some people. Hence, 12,000 sigs in 4 days. MH1 Mar 2013 #129

Making the entire country go along with the wants of a select few, I'd say. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #164

Nope - It's a silly petition. GoneOffShore Mar 2013 #182

Who likes going to work in the dark?? LeftInTX Mar 2013 #22

Here in the Northeast vankuria Mar 2013 #44

Agreed Babel_17 Mar 2013 #46

This can be adjusted by having summer work hours and winter work hours Tumbulu Mar 2013 #107

How is it dangerous? vankuria Mar 2013 #124

17% increase in car wrecks the week after the time change. MH1 Mar 2013 #128

Why is changing the clocks worse than changing work hours? pnwmom Mar 2013 #146

Because only those at work and school change Tumbulu Mar 2013 #168

Since going to work just sucks, Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #57

+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #141

I think we should just fall back every year and skip the spring forward fishwax Mar 2013 #25

Will that count for time travel? :p darkangel218 Mar 2013 #32

I agree. Cleita Mar 2013 #26

I refuse DST! Ptah Mar 2013 #27

Its not dumb. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #28

I read one time that someone objected to DST because it was messing with God's time. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #29

That dude retired after six days pintobean Mar 2013 #127

Your reference to the All Mighty as dude is apt to open all kinds of cans of worms. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #138

If there is an almighty creator pintobean Mar 2013 #170

Well I am not getting into the "whether there is a almighty creator" written w/o capitals, but rhett o rick Mar 2013 #171

I agree... sendero Mar 2013 #30

How could it matter? - energy consumption jberryhill Mar 2013 #33

Less energy is used for lighting, but more is used for heating. MH1 Mar 2013 #36

It doesn't make sense at all latitudes jberryhill Mar 2013 #42

Please see below - LiberalElite Mar 2013 #38

It's nice to be able to garden after work. Matariki Mar 2013 #39

Originally started to give farmers more light at the end of the day-nc randr Mar 2013 #40

I've never figured that one out LeftInTX Mar 2013 #51

A little more time in the field. moondust Mar 2013 #183

Actually most farmers do not like it. RC Mar 2013 #64

I hate DST shanti Mar 2013 #41

There are two (2) reasons for shifting time twice a year: Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #43

You said it best! vankuria Mar 2013 #45

It is in every way better than year-round standard time. duffyduff Mar 2013 #49

So why don't we do year round daylight? Cleita Mar 2013 #55

Why not year round? Reason (1) in my post. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #121

In my zone we do anyway. But with daylight savings we would have Cleita Mar 2013 #142

Socializing outdoors in the summer in Texas only occurs after dark LeftInTX Mar 2013 #56

+1 - And DST means that spring is almost here Politicub Mar 2013 #59

Also - I like to get outside early in the day before the sun gets too strong! hedgehog Mar 2013 #148

I do. I love it. duffyduff Mar 2013 #47

"Standard Time" is now a misnomer. raging moderate Mar 2013 #48

I care. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #54

That's fine. If we could just pick one or ther other. RB TexLa Mar 2013 #68

Hitler didn't have Daylights Savings. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #58

Congratulations! Bay Boy Mar 2013 #181

I prefer it getting dark later all the time. I guess it's mostly for children going to school Quixote1818 Mar 2013 #60

Does anybody remember the year -- 1974 I think -- when . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #62

Yes! I was a senior in HS Freddie Mar 2013 #131

It was 1973. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #144

Actually, that was in 1974, according to DateAndTime. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #166

Yep, you're right. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #172

It's a useful time hack Politicub Mar 2013 #63

Managed fine without it for over 30 years ThoughtCriminal Mar 2013 #65

It's completely irrelevant in Alaska. Blue_In_AK Mar 2013 #66

I used to walk to school in the Tien1985 Mar 2013 #67

Daylight Savings Time Explained (video) Quixote1818 Mar 2013 #69

DST complainers.... AlbertCat Mar 2013 #70

It's pointless. Apophis Mar 2013 #71

It means that I have to get up at 4.15 am instead of 5.15 am Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2013 #72

I love it. MadrasT Mar 2013 #75

Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is? Yavin4 Mar 2013 #78

Does anyone really care? n/t RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #89

People CalFresh Mar 2013 #80

I'm sure most people would prefer that extra hour of light in the evening over the morning. tarheelsunc Mar 2013 #83

Here read this is you can spare a second, people so pissed off about nothing DainBramaged Mar 2013 #84

I hate it! Just leave it one fucking way or the other. Human's arrogance to think they can Raine Mar 2013 #88

Ok so I sleep one hr less tonight or tomorrow... Historic NY Mar 2013 #90

I like it staying lighter later. We should keep DST all year round. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #91

Talk about government intrusion! dpbrown Mar 2013 #92

It's the government that sets the clock! caseymoz Mar 2013 #96

WWJD ? & WAON. Historic NY Mar 2013 #97

I do. I like long days of summer. Hate the short winter days, dark on the way to work, dark when lonestarnot Mar 2013 #93

I call it "The Spring Relief." caseymoz Mar 2013 #95

I have been saying this my entire life! Tumbulu Mar 2013 #98

Who cares what time WE SAY IT IS when it gets dark ? eppur_se_muova Mar 2013 #99

Farmers and stuff. Iggo Mar 2013 #100

It helps when you live a summer climate that can have 100 avebury Mar 2013 #103

I like it and look forward to it. I have for years Gman Mar 2013 #105

Changing the body clock causes cancer even if it's one hour every 6 months. BlueJazz Mar 2013 #106

I am a retired Merchant Marine Officer Harry Monroe Mar 2013 #108

I'm convinced that it's usefulness may partly depend on where you are. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #109

You need to move to Queensland. They don't do Daylight Savings.. Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #111

I just wish the change took place at a more sensible time of the year. SheilaT Mar 2013 #112

I work but love gardning and working in the yard chillfactor Mar 2013 #114

I'm opposed to time in general. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #116

no good in sw florida disabled4life Mar 2013 #117

Have you tried Melatonin? Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #118

Melatonin is great stuff Freddie Mar 2013 #132

It really is, very easy to find, and it's great if you have to change hours Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #193

It doesn't matter one way or another to me. MineralMan Mar 2013 #133

I care. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #134

I do, too. In the spring and summer, it's wonderful to have light in the evenings pnwmom Mar 2013 #139

I'm really looking forward to being out in the early evenings now. AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #143

If we're choosing our battles wisely... politicandy Mar 2013 #140

Totally agree. City Lights Mar 2013 #150

the only thing dumber is complaining about it.... lame54 Mar 2013 #151

The Shocking Truth About Daylight Savings HeavyFule Mar 2013 #154

Your link leads me to a popup ad. Here is the direct link to the article, please change your link. uppityperson Mar 2013 #159

I prefer winter hours Skittles Mar 2013 #175

Me. I like it when it gets dark late and you can plan outdoor activities well into the night CreekDog Mar 2013 #157

Who cares? Seems as though you do. n/t cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #158

Daylight savings time year round would be heaven for me Warpy Mar 2013 #162

same here.... chillfactor Mar 2013 #177

I agree high density Mar 2013 #186

I prefer daylight savings time LWolf Mar 2013 #163

I live in Texas and we could do without DST without many issues, I think. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #165

I care.... mike_c Mar 2013 #174

I care... Roselma Mar 2013 #178

I care. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #184

Agree 100%. Do away with it! Rex Mar 2013 #185

LOL! Lex Mar 2013 #189

I'm more of a night guy, Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #191

I guess you don't know much about mental illness- ya? BeHereNow Mar 2013 #195

This is funny because I was just talking to my mom about it on Sunday davidpdx Mar 2013 #196

Little League practice starts here today revolution breeze Mar 2013 #197

It matters. LWolf Mar 2013 #198

US isn't only country to use it. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #203

I don't set the clocks with you pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #205

I wish I had your passion for the irrelevancies and ineffectual minutia of life... LanternWaste Mar 2013 #206

If one hour is great, then two is better, right? kudzu22 Mar 2013 #208