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In reply to the discussion: *It's not about Rand Paul!* [View all]whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)15. As he may have been a libertarian, probably not
From his Wikipedia page
Politics
Describing his political views, Frank Zappa categorized himself as a "practical conservative."[193] He favored limited government and low taxes; he also stated that he approved of national defense, social security and other federal programs, but only if recipients of such programs are willing and able to pay for them.[193] He favored capitalism, entrepreneurship and independent business, stating that musicians could make more from owning their own businesses than from collecting royalties.[194] He opposed communism, stating "A system that doesn't allow ownership [...] hasto put it mildlya fatal design flaw."[193] Zappa expressed opinions on censorship when he appeared on CNN's Crossfire TV series and debated issues with Washington Times commentator John Lofton in 1986.[195] He had always encouraged his fans to register to vote on album covers, and throughout 1988 he had registration booths at his concerts.[196] He even considered running for President of the United States.[197]
Zappa did not use illegal drugs. He tried cannabis ten times, but without any pleasure, and "never used LSD, never used cocaine, never used heroin or any of that other stuff."[198] Zappa stated, "Drugs do not become a problem until the person who uses the drugs does something to you, or does something that would affect your life that you don't want to have happen to you, like an airline pilot who crashes because he was full of drugs."[199] He was a regular tobacco smoker for most of his life, and strongly critical of anti-tobacco campaigns.[200] While he disapproved of drug use, he criticized the War on Drugs, comparing it to alcohol prohibition, and stated that the United States Treasury would benefit from the decriminalization and regulation of drugs.[193] Describing his philosophical views, Zappa stated, "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the governmentit doesn't own you."[193]
In early 1990, Zappa visited Czechoslovakia at the request of President Václav Havel, and was asked to serve as consultant for the government on trade, cultural matters and tourism. Havel was a lifelong fan of Zappa who had great influence in the avant-garde and underground scene in Central Europe in the 1970s and 1980s (a Czech rock group that was imprisoned in 1976 took its name from Zappa's 1968 song "Plastic People"
.[201] Zappa enthusiastically agreed and began meeting with corporate officials interested in investing in Czechoslovakia. Within a few weeks, however, the U.S. administration put pressure on the Czech government to withdraw the appointment. Havel made Zappa an unofficial cultural attaché instead.[202] Zappa also planned to develop an international consulting enterprise to facilitate trade between the former Eastern Bloc and Western businesses.[184]
Describing his political views, Frank Zappa categorized himself as a "practical conservative."[193] He favored limited government and low taxes; he also stated that he approved of national defense, social security and other federal programs, but only if recipients of such programs are willing and able to pay for them.[193] He favored capitalism, entrepreneurship and independent business, stating that musicians could make more from owning their own businesses than from collecting royalties.[194] He opposed communism, stating "A system that doesn't allow ownership [...] hasto put it mildlya fatal design flaw."[193] Zappa expressed opinions on censorship when he appeared on CNN's Crossfire TV series and debated issues with Washington Times commentator John Lofton in 1986.[195] He had always encouraged his fans to register to vote on album covers, and throughout 1988 he had registration booths at his concerts.[196] He even considered running for President of the United States.[197]
Zappa did not use illegal drugs. He tried cannabis ten times, but without any pleasure, and "never used LSD, never used cocaine, never used heroin or any of that other stuff."[198] Zappa stated, "Drugs do not become a problem until the person who uses the drugs does something to you, or does something that would affect your life that you don't want to have happen to you, like an airline pilot who crashes because he was full of drugs."[199] He was a regular tobacco smoker for most of his life, and strongly critical of anti-tobacco campaigns.[200] While he disapproved of drug use, he criticized the War on Drugs, comparing it to alcohol prohibition, and stated that the United States Treasury would benefit from the decriminalization and regulation of drugs.[193] Describing his philosophical views, Zappa stated, "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the governmentit doesn't own you."[193]
In early 1990, Zappa visited Czechoslovakia at the request of President Václav Havel, and was asked to serve as consultant for the government on trade, cultural matters and tourism. Havel was a lifelong fan of Zappa who had great influence in the avant-garde and underground scene in Central Europe in the 1970s and 1980s (a Czech rock group that was imprisoned in 1976 took its name from Zappa's 1968 song "Plastic People"
But blindly adopting his name makes perfect sense for you.
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Yes, it is about Ron & Rand Paul and his BFF David Duke & his John Birch Society backing.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#3
You won't be able to ride this latest wave of Greenwald/Paul derangement much longer
whatchamacallit
Mar 2013
#5
Any Democratic Senator who wants to undermine Rand Paul can step us and oppose Obama's drone policy.
AnotherMcIntosh
Mar 2013
#32
So the best that you have is a straw-man argument while relying upon ad hominem fallacy?
AnotherMcIntosh
Mar 2013
#47
Thanks for posting this... I had not seen this:"If you happen to be the son of a bad person, is that
midnight
Mar 2013
#51
I never once had concerns that Obama would drone us. Or shoot us, or bayonet us, etc.
TwilightGardener
Mar 2013
#6
I agree re: Obama, but fear potential others, both now since it doesn't say it must be Obama
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#10
Why is this an issue now? I was never in a panic that any President would do this.
TwilightGardener
Mar 2013
#13
Right, because before drones, there was no way an evil President could kill people
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#31
You realize your only response was in the form of a logical fallacy, right?
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#63
Here is some help, read about the guilt by association fallacy in this link
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#64
Your assertions were fallacious. I'm sorry you are having problems accepting that.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#67
No one needs to be concerned about the use of physical force against those who wish to speak up?
AnotherMcIntosh
Mar 2013
#35
Police brutality and oppression of peaceful protest are a concern, but not quite in the same league
TwilightGardener
Mar 2013
#39
Stories of Police overseeing OWS were doing just that... Plotting Assinations....
midnight
Mar 2013
#55
It is always about who and not what with some, it is their entire measure.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#41
Where was Sen Warren? She was spending her time trying to actually do something about the banksters
AnotherMcIntosh
Mar 2013
#49
I agree we need others besides Rand Paul.. But Paul Wellstone warned us that their are those in
midnight
Mar 2013
#48