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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths" [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and "imminent"/"combat role"/etc have retained the same, plain and simple meaning they've always had. Apparently you don't see the direct connection between the ambiguity those two things now possess, and the "NO!" you're harping on that is inextricably intertwined with them. "NO!" is conditional, and applicable if and ONLY if unimaginable or extraordinary circumstances never arise, but who's to say (besides those who wanna give full faith and trust to BHO) that those terms won't undergo changes in definition as the others have, given how malleable meanings have been shown and are now known to be, as the professor in last part of my last post showed. And what will happen should some rightwingnut kook get the pres helm, wanting to engage in further definition revisionisms of their own?
RP's "focus on himself" for whatever self-serving reasons and the fact that all aspects of drone use and presidential power as it is being applied in this phony WOT need to be known, discussed, and debated, that his "stunt" put a spotlight on, are two different things.
It doesn't matter if the driver was an idiot, or the car a junker, only that they arrived at the right destination -- forcing the discussion/debate -- does. That these issues are getting more attention in the wake of his effort cannot be denied, and all the disproportionate focus on the idiot and the junker is counterproductive to those of us that wanna critique the destination, not whether we got here in the fastest or "right" way.
Just because RP's an idiot doesn't make what BHO's doing right, and obviously the focus on the former is designed for and intended to derail or serve as a distraction from any debate on the latter, because that task won't be easy for those determined to defend this president no matter what.
The "american citizen" thing, here or abroad, is just one aspect of drone use one can reasonably find objectionable, and just because one objects, whether it be GG or me, doesn't make us even remotely like Rand Paul in the way it's being conveyed, anymore than my sharing a love of family and friends, and little puppies and kittens too, makes me like the Nazi's that did as well. I suspect we share a few povs on civil liberties, and that's about it.