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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald defend Rand Paul against "Democratic myths" [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)60. It's good
"I don't agree with the White House's assertion that they can target Americans for execution without any judicial oversight whatsoever. So on that issue, yes-- I apparently find myself in the same crowd as Rand Paul. I disagree with him on just about everything else, but on that one point, we appear to share some common ground. "
...to know that you're "in the same crowd" and "share some common ground" with a hypocritical idiot.
Paul acknowledged that US drone strikes have proven effective in places like Pakistan and Yemen, including a strike on US-born radical preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, whom Paul branded a traitor.
But "if you're going to kill non-combatants, people eating dinner, in America, there have to be some rules," he added.
http://www.alternet.org/progressive-wire/senators-filibuster-cia-pick-ends-after-12-hrs
But "if you're going to kill non-combatants, people eating dinner, in America, there have to be some rules," he added.
http://www.alternet.org/progressive-wire/senators-filibuster-cia-pick-ends-after-12-hrs
GOP Senators Introduce Pointless Drone Bill
By Adam Serwer
Not wanting to take Attorney General Eric Holder's word for it that the US government won't be sending deadly flying robots to kill its own citizens on American soil, Senators Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) have introduced a bill that would "prohibit drone killings of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they do not represent an imminent threat."
The bill all but disarms the US government, leaving it with few options for lethal force against citizens other than guns, tanks, helicopters, snipers, paramilitary squads, bombs, tasers and blunt force.
Unless you're not in the United States, or you're an "imminent threat." In that case, the government can drone away.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/gop-senators-introduce-bill-banning-domestic-drone-assassinations
By Adam Serwer
Not wanting to take Attorney General Eric Holder's word for it that the US government won't be sending deadly flying robots to kill its own citizens on American soil, Senators Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) have introduced a bill that would "prohibit drone killings of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they do not represent an imminent threat."
The bill all but disarms the US government, leaving it with few options for lethal force against citizens other than guns, tanks, helicopters, snipers, paramilitary squads, bombs, tasers and blunt force.
Unless you're not in the United States, or you're an "imminent threat." In that case, the government can drone away.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/gop-senators-introduce-bill-banning-domestic-drone-assassinations
Use of drones to kill Americans not OK "if they do not represent an imminent threat."
Killing Americans who don't pose an "imminent threat" OK if the weapons of choice are "guns, tanks, helicopters, snipers, paramilitary squads, bombs, tasers and blunt force."
Use of drones to kill anyone outside the United States OK.
"YOU, on the other hand, side with John Bolton when he says the White House should be able to target Americans."
Clearly, it's easy to make up your own bullshit and then agree with it.
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Glenn Greenwald is interning for a position as lap dog to the "citizens of the archipelagos".
patrice
Mar 2013
#11
"Glenn Greenwald is a consistent principled progressive..." Thanks, DesMoinesDem....
truth2power
Mar 2013
#20
Wrong: he's a dogmatic libertarian, and that's not always coterminous with "progressive"
frazzled
Mar 2013
#21
How many are okay with targeted killings but were outraged by warrantless wiretaps?
LittleBlue
Mar 2013
#23
Rand paul is a libertarian douche, but he still has legitimate concerns about drones
NoMoreWarNow
Mar 2013
#31
You're quoting my post from this very thread like it's some long lost, damning evidence.
Marr
Mar 2013
#79
Wyden's efforts for Congressional oversight seem appropriate to me. But, of course,
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#81