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ProSense

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60. It's good
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:52 PM
Mar 2013

"I don't agree with the White House's assertion that they can target Americans for execution without any judicial oversight whatsoever. So on that issue, yes-- I apparently find myself in the same crowd as Rand Paul. I disagree with him on just about everything else, but on that one point, we appear to share some common ground. "

...to know that you're "in the same crowd" and "share some common ground" with a hypocritical idiot.

Paul acknowledged that US drone strikes have proven effective in places like Pakistan and Yemen, including a strike on US-born radical preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, whom Paul branded a traitor.

But "if you're going to kill non-combatants, people eating dinner, in America, there have to be some rules," he added.

http://www.alternet.org/progressive-wire/senators-filibuster-cia-pick-ends-after-12-hrs


GOP Senators Introduce Pointless Drone Bill

By Adam Serwer

Not wanting to take Attorney General Eric Holder's word for it that the US government won't be sending deadly flying robots to kill its own citizens on American soil, Senators Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Rand Paul (R-Ky.) have introduced a bill that would "prohibit drone killings of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil if they do not represent an imminent threat."

The bill all but disarms the US government, leaving it with few options for lethal force against citizens other than guns, tanks, helicopters, snipers, paramilitary squads, bombs, tasers and blunt force.

Unless you're not in the United States, or you're an "imminent threat." In that case, the government can drone away.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/03/gop-senators-introduce-bill-banning-domestic-drone-assassinations

Use of drones to kill Americans not OK "if they do not represent an imminent threat."

Killing Americans who don't pose an "imminent threat" OK if the weapons of choice are "guns, tanks, helicopters, snipers, paramilitary squads, bombs, tasers and blunt force."

Use of drones to kill anyone outside the United States OK.

"YOU, on the other hand, side with John Bolton when he says the White House should be able to target Americans."

Clearly, it's easy to make up your own bullshit and then agree with it.

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Hypocrisy - Thy Name Is Rand Paul cantbeserious Mar 2013 #1
Glenn Greenwald is a consistent principled progressive DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #2
You, ProSense Mar 2013 #3
You do understand that it is Obama ordering these drone strikes DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #5
Wait: ProSense Mar 2013 #7
More deflections from you. DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #12
No, ProSense Mar 2013 #13
Geeze roxy1234 Mar 2013 #16
A few ProSense Mar 2013 #18
I agree roxy1234 Mar 2013 #19
Wait, rewind, go back... brentspeak Mar 2013 #37
Wait ProSense Mar 2013 #38
Also, can you ProSense Mar 2013 #8
Wow. The Rand Paul love is getting a little thick around here...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #53
Glenn Greenwald is interning for a position as lap dog to the "citizens of the archipelagos". patrice Mar 2013 #11
"Glenn Greenwald is a consistent principled progressive..." Thanks, DesMoinesDem.... truth2power Mar 2013 #20
Message auto-removed BO 08 Mar 2013 #43
Wrong: he's a dogmatic libertarian, and that's not always coterminous with "progressive" frazzled Mar 2013 #21
Thx for the link to a new post by Greenwald - Will Read 4 sure now. kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #4
You're welcome ProSense Mar 2013 #6
Jury results: 1-5 Leave It Waiting For Everyman Mar 2013 #39
That a person ProSense Mar 2013 #40
Eric Holder is a lawyer... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #9
Ah, the ProSense Mar 2013 #10
Yes there are many issues to be discussed... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #14
What ProSense Mar 2013 #17
Okay I will keep this real simple... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #29
Better yet, ProSense Mar 2013 #32
In other words... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #34
Where's ProSense Mar 2013 #35
I notice you studiously avoid... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #42
Ah, ProSense Mar 2013 #45
Guess I hit a nerve there, eh? ljm2002 Mar 2013 #46
No, ProSense Mar 2013 #47
That makes me proud. ljm2002 Mar 2013 #48
LOL! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #49
"Rand Paul is a hypocrite and an asshole." - Yes. cheapdate Mar 2013 #15
Of course you know whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #22
The OP ProSense Mar 2013 #25
How many are okay with targeted killings but were outraged by warrantless wiretaps? LittleBlue Mar 2013 #23
Here ProSense Mar 2013 #26
Any kook with a website can gain a following these days. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #24
Yeah, so did rush limbaugh.. rand paul was spouting glen on the Senate Cha Mar 2013 #27
that reads like so much _____ to me stupidicus Mar 2013 #28
Speaking of ProSense Mar 2013 #30
right stupidicus Mar 2013 #59
But it ProSense Mar 2013 #62
Sure stupidicus Mar 2013 #87
Rand paul is a libertarian douche, but he still has legitimate concerns about drones NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #31
So ProSense Mar 2013 #33
So your point is... what? That Rand Paul *actually* agrees with YOU? Marr Mar 2013 #58
I think ProSense Mar 2013 #61
One thing Rand Paul did do customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #36
Exactly, ProSense Mar 2013 #41
Lawrence O'Donnell noticed him.. Cha Mar 2013 #63
Greeenwald is a clown...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #44
That is an insightful assessment and deserves a thorough response. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #50
Can always count on you to defend the Paul-loving libertarian... SidDithers Mar 2013 #51
I love you, too. My affection for you is somewhere between Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #52
Let's check the Clown Scale whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #70
Timely and important!!... SidDithers Mar 2013 #86
Glad to see you enjoying yourself whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #88
Classy... SidDithers Mar 2013 #89
Me thinks SidDithers whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #90
Why'd you edit your post?...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #91
Because I thought better of it whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #92
Uh huh... SidDithers Mar 2013 #93
Why am I not surprised? jazzimov Mar 2013 #54
You side with John Bolton on this issue, I know. /nt Marr Mar 2013 #55
And ProSense Mar 2013 #56
Surely you can understand this concept if you try. Look-- Marr Mar 2013 #57
It's good ProSense Mar 2013 #60
Oh, c'mon-- are you still pretending you can't comprehend this? Marr Mar 2013 #64
So ProSense Mar 2013 #65
What fantasy? Marr Mar 2013 #69
Here's what I know, ProSense Mar 2013 #71
You're quoting my post from this very thread like it's some long lost, damning evidence. Marr Mar 2013 #79
Oooh ProSense Mar 2013 #83
Do you understand what the word "agree" means? Marr Mar 2013 #85
You would ProSense Mar 2013 #94
You're simply dodging an sentence you don't like the sound of. Marr Mar 2013 #96
So ProSense Mar 2013 #97
More feigned stupidity. Marr Mar 2013 #98
Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #99
Just read Greenwald's piece whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #66
Do you ProSense Mar 2013 #68
I agree with Greenwald *not* Paul whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #72
Actually, ProSense Mar 2013 #73
Sorry whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #76
Are you ProSense Mar 2013 #77
Why so opaque? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #78
Yes, ProSense Mar 2013 #80
Ok whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #82
Greenwald, like Paul and Turley, is a professional troll struggle4progress Mar 2013 #67
Wyden a "professional troll"? nt green for victory Mar 2013 #74
No ProSense Mar 2013 #75
Wyden's efforts for Congressional oversight seem appropriate to me. But, of course, struggle4progress Mar 2013 #81
+1 freshwest Mar 2013 #95
2 and 2 make four, no matter who says it, BUT DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #84
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