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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
68. Do you
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:30 PM
Mar 2013

"Just read Greenwald's piece And while I think his praise of Paul is somewhat misplaced, I agree with pretty much everything else he said. So with that you can twist me into a Rand Paul supporter, lover, BFF... whatever your little heart desires."

...agree with this, Greenwald:

(2) Whether domestic assassinations are imminent is irrelevant to the debate

The primary means of mocking Paul's concerns was to deride the notion that Obama is about to unleash drone attacks and death squads on US soil aimed at Americans. But nobody, including Paul, suggested that was the case. To focus on that attack is an absurd strawman, a deliberate distraction from the real issues, a total irrelevancy...First, the reason this question matters so much - can the President target US citizens for assassination without due process on US soil? - is because it demonstrates just how radical the Obama administration's theories of executive power are. Once you embrace the premises of everything they do in this area - we are a Nation at War; the entire globe is the battlefield; the president is vested with the unchecked power to use force against anyone he accuses of involvement with Terrorism - then there is no cogent, coherent way to say that the president lacks the power to assassinate even US citizens on US soil. That conclusion is the necessary, logical outcome of the premises that have been embraced. That's why it is so vital to ask that.

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You should know that it's complete bullshit. Paul:

The President is advocating a drone strike program in America. All we have to compare it with is the drone strike program overseas.

http://twitter.com/SenRandPaul/status/309465276863365120

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Hypocrisy - Thy Name Is Rand Paul cantbeserious Mar 2013 #1
Glenn Greenwald is a consistent principled progressive DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #2
You, ProSense Mar 2013 #3
You do understand that it is Obama ordering these drone strikes DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #5
Wait: ProSense Mar 2013 #7
More deflections from you. DesMoinesDem Mar 2013 #12
No, ProSense Mar 2013 #13
Geeze roxy1234 Mar 2013 #16
A few ProSense Mar 2013 #18
I agree roxy1234 Mar 2013 #19
Wait, rewind, go back... brentspeak Mar 2013 #37
Wait ProSense Mar 2013 #38
Also, can you ProSense Mar 2013 #8
Wow. The Rand Paul love is getting a little thick around here...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #53
Glenn Greenwald is interning for a position as lap dog to the "citizens of the archipelagos". patrice Mar 2013 #11
"Glenn Greenwald is a consistent principled progressive..." Thanks, DesMoinesDem.... truth2power Mar 2013 #20
Message auto-removed BO 08 Mar 2013 #43
Wrong: he's a dogmatic libertarian, and that's not always coterminous with "progressive" frazzled Mar 2013 #21
Thx for the link to a new post by Greenwald - Will Read 4 sure now. kenny blankenship Mar 2013 #4
You're welcome ProSense Mar 2013 #6
Jury results: 1-5 Leave It Waiting For Everyman Mar 2013 #39
That a person ProSense Mar 2013 #40
Eric Holder is a lawyer... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #9
Ah, the ProSense Mar 2013 #10
Yes there are many issues to be discussed... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #14
What ProSense Mar 2013 #17
Okay I will keep this real simple... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #29
Better yet, ProSense Mar 2013 #32
In other words... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #34
Where's ProSense Mar 2013 #35
I notice you studiously avoid... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #42
Ah, ProSense Mar 2013 #45
Guess I hit a nerve there, eh? ljm2002 Mar 2013 #46
No, ProSense Mar 2013 #47
That makes me proud. ljm2002 Mar 2013 #48
LOL! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #49
"Rand Paul is a hypocrite and an asshole." - Yes. cheapdate Mar 2013 #15
Of course you know whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #22
The OP ProSense Mar 2013 #25
How many are okay with targeted killings but were outraged by warrantless wiretaps? LittleBlue Mar 2013 #23
Here ProSense Mar 2013 #26
Any kook with a website can gain a following these days. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #24
Yeah, so did rush limbaugh.. rand paul was spouting glen on the Senate Cha Mar 2013 #27
that reads like so much _____ to me stupidicus Mar 2013 #28
Speaking of ProSense Mar 2013 #30
right stupidicus Mar 2013 #59
But it ProSense Mar 2013 #62
Sure stupidicus Mar 2013 #87
Rand paul is a libertarian douche, but he still has legitimate concerns about drones NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #31
So ProSense Mar 2013 #33
So your point is... what? That Rand Paul *actually* agrees with YOU? Marr Mar 2013 #58
I think ProSense Mar 2013 #61
One thing Rand Paul did do customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #36
Exactly, ProSense Mar 2013 #41
Lawrence O'Donnell noticed him.. Cha Mar 2013 #63
Greeenwald is a clown...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #44
That is an insightful assessment and deserves a thorough response. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #50
Can always count on you to defend the Paul-loving libertarian... SidDithers Mar 2013 #51
I love you, too. My affection for you is somewhere between Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #52
Let's check the Clown Scale whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #70
Timely and important!!... SidDithers Mar 2013 #86
Glad to see you enjoying yourself whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #88
Classy... SidDithers Mar 2013 #89
Me thinks SidDithers whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #90
Why'd you edit your post?...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #91
Because I thought better of it whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #92
Uh huh... SidDithers Mar 2013 #93
Why am I not surprised? jazzimov Mar 2013 #54
You side with John Bolton on this issue, I know. /nt Marr Mar 2013 #55
And ProSense Mar 2013 #56
Surely you can understand this concept if you try. Look-- Marr Mar 2013 #57
It's good ProSense Mar 2013 #60
Oh, c'mon-- are you still pretending you can't comprehend this? Marr Mar 2013 #64
So ProSense Mar 2013 #65
What fantasy? Marr Mar 2013 #69
Here's what I know, ProSense Mar 2013 #71
You're quoting my post from this very thread like it's some long lost, damning evidence. Marr Mar 2013 #79
Oooh ProSense Mar 2013 #83
Do you understand what the word "agree" means? Marr Mar 2013 #85
You would ProSense Mar 2013 #94
You're simply dodging an sentence you don't like the sound of. Marr Mar 2013 #96
So ProSense Mar 2013 #97
More feigned stupidity. Marr Mar 2013 #98
Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #99
Just read Greenwald's piece whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #66
Do you ProSense Mar 2013 #68
I agree with Greenwald *not* Paul whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #72
Actually, ProSense Mar 2013 #73
Sorry whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #76
Are you ProSense Mar 2013 #77
Why so opaque? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #78
Yes, ProSense Mar 2013 #80
Ok whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #82
Greenwald, like Paul and Turley, is a professional troll struggle4progress Mar 2013 #67
Wyden a "professional troll"? nt green for victory Mar 2013 #74
No ProSense Mar 2013 #75
Wyden's efforts for Congressional oversight seem appropriate to me. But, of course, struggle4progress Mar 2013 #81
+1 freshwest Mar 2013 #95
2 and 2 make four, no matter who says it, BUT DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #84
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