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40. On a similar note, my parents wanted me to attend a private school that required a 30+ minute

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 07:57 AM

Mar 2013

commute each way. And I didn't want to socialize with rich kids. (I was leaning left even in high school.)

I couldn't dissuade them from going forward to take me out of my local high school and put me in the new place until I hit a novel argument that won the day: I solemnly challenged them to enroll me in the private school outside our community and they would pay the price, particularly my mother.

Why?

Because my mother was a trustee on the local community Board of Education. I hypothesized about the guaranteed criticism of her hypocrisy of sending her child to a school outside the district, suggesting that the public schools that she was promoting weren't good enough for her.

I graduated from high school with my mother (now President of the Board of Education) giving me my diploma.

Michelle Rhee is oblivious to the hypocrisy.

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Where do Michelle Rhee's children go to school? Glad you asked.... [View all] HiPointDem Mar 2013 OP

du rec. nt xchrom Mar 2013 #1

I find it disgusting, bringing children into a political fight. We have no idea why that family msanthrope Mar 2013 #12

Thank you jehop61 Mar 2013 #34

Have you noticed that NOT ONE POSTER wants to talk about her kid in public school? Not one. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #60

Why is she depriving any of her children of the wonderful Bush NCLB sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #270

Actually, it DOES. It is exactly the *heart* of the matter. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #85

Okay--she's got one kid in public schools, and one in private. So, her policies would msanthrope Mar 2013 #90

I didn't say or was or wasn't useful. I said it was *pertinent*. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #111

Yes, it does. I can't think of a more fitting example of "Do as I say, not as I do" hatrack Mar 2013 #263

If she is advocating where others send their children, then she rhett o rick Mar 2013 #46

She's got one in public, one in private, according to the link. How does that make her a hypocrite? msanthrope Mar 2013 #54

If you dont see it, then I doubt you are willing to listen to an explanation. If you support her rhett o rick Mar 2013 #76

I have no support for Michelle Rhee, but I think bringing her kids into this discussion msanthrope Mar 2013 #79

Bringing America's children into a money making racket which is what she does, is sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #165

Ahem--one child is in public school, one in private. And she doesn't hold public office. msanthrope Mar 2013 #171

She may not hold public office, but she has the ear of a great number who do. kcass1954 Mar 2013 #235

How do you avoid it HelenWheels Mar 2013 #50

She's got one in public, one in private, according to the link. So is it that she hates one, likes msanthrope Mar 2013 #55

This doesn't say *anything* about her kids. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #51

She's got one in public, one in private, according to the link. So what does that say? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #57

My guess would be the younger daughter isn't old enough for the 5 - 12 private school, yet. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #68

Why do you presume the public school is second rate? And why do you presume Nashville msanthrope Mar 2013 #71

I'm not making that presumption. I'd actually bet the kid's enrolled in a totally OK school. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #73

Well, you are the one who used the term "second-rate" education. Why even bring the kids into this- msanthrope Mar 2013 #88

Comparing apples to apples, I said it wouldn't seem fair to send them to different high schools. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #96

Well, that's ultimately a decision that family gets to make. Your 2nd paragraph underscores a great msanthrope Mar 2013 #107

The kids aren't 'the focus' -- that's your meme -- and *w h a t* question? mojowork_n Mar 2013 #117

Why does Rhee think the public schools are second rate? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #169

Obviously she doesn't--she has a child in public school in Nashville. Facts are good. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #172

So... You are free to declare why she has one child in public school Orrex Mar 2013 #175

I come by this information from the OP--read the links!! Rhee said one kid was in public school, an msanthrope Mar 2013 #177

Where did you come by your assumption that her child has special needs? Orrex Mar 2013 #182

Orrex, I never asserted or assumed that her child is 'special needs.' My kid is. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #185

Well... Orrex Mar 2013 #189

I didn't realize I was giving that impression and for that I'm sorry. msanthrope Mar 2013 #195

The OP does not link to Rhee saying one of her children is in PS. This is what sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #193

I'm sorry you are having trouble reading Ms. Ravitch's blog. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #201

I'm sorry to see you defending Rhee, a known enemy of the Public Schools. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #204

I was sent to public school while my brother was sent to private school Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #252

Does she, then why won't she say so? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #183

Hey, aren't you brining the "other" public school kid in to your political argument? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #81

Dude--it's in the links provided by the OP. I say keep the kids out of it altogether. But be msanthrope Mar 2013 #83

Leave thet kid out of it!!!! Don't discuss that child!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #84

Take a breath, maake the cupcake calm down! nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #95

It's an Angry Attack Muffin. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #98

I love Angry Attack Muffin!! We should have more bakery product avatars in general!. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #109

Forget the kids. They're not "brought in to it." But what about that husband? mojowork_n Mar 2013 #86

Isn't he a lawyer? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #126

But you haven't demanded that Rhee keep the rest of our children 'out of it' have you? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #223

Not only that but making assumptions about the reasons why the child sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #266

It makes no sense to talk of schools without talking about children. bemildred Mar 2013 #78

Well, she's got one in public schools, and one in private. So, if you critique her on that, you've msanthrope Mar 2013 #82

I said it is relevant. She is a public figure, in this area. bemildred Mar 2013 #89

Okay--so what's the relvancy of her having a kid in public, a kid in private schools? Instead of msanthrope Mar 2013 #93

It is relevant because she is not following her own advice. bemildred Mar 2013 #102

I would ususally agree with you; however, emsimon33 Mar 2013 #103

She has one kid in public, one in private. Read the links. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #106

I think the father has some say-so in this. Isn't the private school attendee there to be with him? freshwest Mar 2013 #260

I agree, but considering the author of the OP, I'm not surprised...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #123

Note how the OP didn't state that one kid was in public, one in private? msanthrope Mar 2013 #125

The author of the OP is one of DU's finest. That was a blatant insult, Sid. madfloridian Mar 2013 #241

"one of DU's finest"... SidDithers Mar 2013 #242

Unbelievable. madfloridian Mar 2013 #245

How can they be missed if they're still here?... SidDithers Mar 2013 #250

I believe you got the country wrong. KamaAina Mar 2013 #255

Oh shit. You're right!!... SidDithers Mar 2013 #258

If that is how you feel then Rhee has no business Angry Dragon Mar 2013 #144

Destroying the public school system, stealing funds intended for children sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #160

Yeah well, the NRA thought making a commercial about the Obama girls schpooling was appropriate, so msanthrope Mar 2013 #168

So you're a Rhee supporter then? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #174

I've already answered that on this thread. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #181

What have you answered? That the Far Right hates Diane Ravitch? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #184

Oh, lordy--it would help if you read the thread. And I do not answer your questions. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #186

Strawman. Nobody posted anything in support of Rhee. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #216

Who is 'outing the children of political opponents'? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #222

Not in the slightest. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #225

All she had to do was say 'my children are in private and/or public school. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #231

I don't think it's a deflection. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #232

She wasn't asked to name schools. So it is a strawman to pretend that she sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #233

I don't construct strawmen, so careful where you wave that insinuation around. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #236

Neither do I, but that didn't stop you from accusing me of doing so. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #267

Oh please. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #268

No one brought children sulphurdunn Mar 2013 #179

disgusting or not... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #254

Public schools are not free Alcibiades Mar 2013 #261

Very true. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #271

Funny thing...in Hawaii public school teachers tend to send their kids to private school, dkf Mar 2013 #2

yeah, cause they're all getting so rich on those big union salaries!!! wheee!!!!!!!! HiPointDem Mar 2013 #3

It's not true, especially when the entire state is a school district. duffyduff Mar 2013 #155

Here's how think tanks like Heartland get those seemingly high results: They include administration HiPointDem Mar 2013 #220

Huh? trumad Mar 2013 #4

According to this 45% of public school teachers manage to do it... dkf Mar 2013 #5

so your 'source' is a 1995 article from the conservative "Heartland Institute" propaganda tank, HiPointDem Mar 2013 #7

My sister works in the schools and she confirms that it is pretty noticeable. dkf Mar 2013 #16

So your sister is the new source? trumad Mar 2013 #19

Sometimes it's pretty obvious too. dkf Mar 2013 #29

Well I have an Anglo influence in my family trumad Mar 2013 #44

But you don't tell other posters the entire state is a school district duffyduff Mar 2013 #150

I have never met a public school teacher who sent their kids to private schools. duffyduff Mar 2013 #145

hmm...I know plenty. onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #276

oh, well, if your sister says so....say no more. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #22

When the Superintendent and the director of the BOE both send their kids to Iolani... dkf Mar 2013 #31

Why am I not surprised? duffyduff Mar 2013 #143

Wow--- trumad Mar 2013 #10

Another b.s. talking point. duffyduff Mar 2013 #139

According to that, nearly one-third of everyone on O'ahu manages to do it. KamaAina Mar 2013 #211

The way they collect those bogus statistics is by including administrators in the tally. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #248

Actually, dkf's claim makes sense for a number of reasons. Divernan Mar 2013 #41

It makes no sense... trumad Mar 2013 #45

They can and they do - financial aid and personal sacrifice. Divernan Mar 2013 #47

They can and they do? trumad Mar 2013 #97

DC (28%);Baltimore(35%);Phillie(44%);Chicago(41%)teachers w/kids in private schools Divernan Mar 2013 #113

Washington Times is NOT a reliable source and inner city school districts aren't representative duffyduff Mar 2013 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #161

The Washington Times is an unreliable source for just about anything. They were sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #200

The Wash.Times study was in 2004, and the teachers' union has not refuted it. Divernan Mar 2013 #215

How much do public schools in Hawaii cost? hughee99 Mar 2013 #64

You make a good point. Divernan Mar 2013 #91

Both her kids went to the public HS in Austin. n/t alp227 Mar 2013 #138

I didn't know that... hughee99 Mar 2013 #147

I'm a public school teacher. My kids go to private school. nessa Mar 2013 #114

Show me the stats? trumad Mar 2013 #129

I ALL READY SHOWED YOU THE STATS 30 MINUTES AGO! IN THIS VERY THREAD! Divernan Mar 2013 #137

I don't know of ANY public school teachers I ever worked with duffyduff Mar 2013 #141

To quote another poster, show us the stats. Divernan Mar 2013 #151

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #164

Hawai'i, particularly O'ahu, is a special case KamaAina Mar 2013 #257

Baloney. It's a pack of lies, just like dkf's garbage about Social Security. n/t duffyduff Mar 2013 #140

The focus should be on IMPROVING public schools Divernan Mar 2013 #127

Actually I think teachers do go on strike timdog44 Mar 2013 #187

Thanks for a courteous and thoughtful response. Divernan Mar 2013 #203

Yeah, teachers unions don't give a fig about class size, do they? lolly Mar 2013 #192

Where have you been? gollygee Mar 2013 #198

It's frustrating that you distorted what I wrote. Divernan Mar 2013 #212

NAEP reteachinwi Mar 2013 #262

Thanks for posting those findings. Divernan Mar 2013 #265

This assertion is unsubstantiated. Can you cite evidence? reteachinwi Mar 2013 #253

Keep digging, dkf. duffyduff Mar 2013 #154

It makes sense that they'd do it jmowreader Mar 2013 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Mar 2013 #162

hOME SK00LED blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #6

Huffman got admitted to law school with only a teaching degree as preparation Kolesar Mar 2013 #8

he didn't have a teaching degree. he had an english lit degree. but from swathmore. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #9

My old boss majored in English lit and minored in sarcasm Kolesar Mar 2013 #13

It's common for people to go to law school after graduating from college enough Mar 2013 #15

My brother could not get admitted with a criminal justice degree Kolesar Mar 2013 #17

I went to law school with a BA in History and Languages, a teaching msanthrope Mar 2013 #24

A college degree with a great GPA, and great LSAT scores, DevonRex Mar 2013 #214

You know those General Education requirements that everyone hates and calls useless. JVS Mar 2013 #249

Disgusting, bringing a person's minor children into a political fight. Absolutely revolting. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #11

Not revolting. Relevant alarimer Mar 2013 #14

are the obama's hypocrites? ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #20

My daughter goes to a religious school that accommodates her disability...the msanthrope Mar 2013 #25

I think it's disgusting when a family's only "option" is to have to pay money to go to a religious Brickbat Mar 2013 #28

Having worked in said district, I can tell you I wasn't surprised when my msanthrope Mar 2013 #33

then bitch at the OP... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #38

I note that not a single poster has addressed the fact that one kid is in public school, one in msanthrope Mar 2013 #63

I think it's disgusting when someone like Rhee interferes with the decisions sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #197

I do not answer your questions anymore, Sabrina, but it is enjoyable to watch you try to pose them. msanthrope Mar 2013 #205

Actually you do answer my questions. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #209

You must've been missing laundry_queen Mar 2013 #26

i understand that ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #35

Is water wet? roody Mar 2013 #42

You have no idea why those children are at that school. None. People msanthrope Mar 2013 #23

Yes, it does. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #52

Did you miss the point where one child is in public schools, and one in private? I note that no one msanthrope Mar 2013 #59

It also doesn't fit your criticism of the post. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #72

You think there aren't private schools in Nashville that teach 4th grade and below? My critique is msanthrope Mar 2013 #77

Oh, come on already. Are you paid by the word? Done wasting time w/you. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #100

what difference does that make ? olddots Mar 2013 #159

I don't see this as, "bringing the children into it." The line of criticism here is entirely about Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2013 #230

Agreed. Totally relevant. laundry_queen Mar 2013 #27

One kid's in private, one in public. How is that relevant? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #74

Are you unable to understand the first 4 words of that sentence? (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #130

But then not all kids can go to private school treestar Mar 2013 #75

False analogy lolly Mar 2013 #194

Private schools are going to be better than public schools treestar Mar 2013 #240

Baloney Orrex Mar 2013 #30

Agree mtasselin Mar 2013 #32

She's divorced. Are you sure she even makes that decision? Further, you have msanthrope Mar 2013 #36

Pointing out hypocrisy is a democratic virtue Orrex Mar 2013 #39

How is she hypocritical? Once child is in public schools, one in private. You have no idea what msanthrope Mar 2013 #53

She is harming millions of children. Orrex Mar 2013 #62

Well, don't facts bring an interesting change to your argument? Now you aren't concerned about msanthrope Mar 2013 #67

Uh... What? Orrex Mar 2013 #80

She's got a kid in public school. So that kid isn't 'protected.' And you have no idea why one msanthrope Mar 2013 #104

It's an elite college prep school Orrex Mar 2013 #110

How is that relevant? n/t kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #243

+1 Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #69

Nailed it, orrex. Thanks. n/t truth2power Mar 2013 #43

What did he nail? He forgot that one kid is in private school, one in public. It kinda blows his msanthrope Mar 2013 #61

I know that you'd like to think that Orrex Mar 2013 #99

Orrex, my special needs child is in private school because her public school district cannot msanthrope Mar 2013 #112

You are assuming that her child has special needs. Why? Orrex Mar 2013 #118

I find your suggestion disgusting---and let me tell you why. Her child's private needs, regardless msanthrope Mar 2013 #121

You are free to advocate for her Orrex Mar 2013 #122

I don't have to offer any refutation to the idea that a child must have their privacy violated msanthrope Mar 2013 #148

Nice try Orrex Mar 2013 #156

If you can't 'win' a debate without involving people's minor children, you've lost. If this is what msanthrope Mar 2013 #163

I'm increasingly convinced that you aren't reading what people are posting Orrex Mar 2013 #167

Ms. Ravitch chose to reveal the name of the school where one child goes. msanthrope Mar 2013 #176

The school's name and the name of Rhee's elder daughter are available online Orrex Mar 2013 #180

There was no debate here. There was one person providing facts and another sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #207

If the special needs thing is true, it's probably the other way around KamaAina Mar 2013 #210

I don't get this, in NY all special education is paid for/provided by public funding Progressive dog Mar 2013 #119

I'm in PA. But NY state parents will tell you the same thing--you can't make teachers accomodate msanthrope Mar 2013 #124

I am in NY and a teacher in private school and have worked with many sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #213

This: truth2power Mar 2013 #146

She has one kid in public, one in private. So she talks half the talk and msanthrope Mar 2013 #157

Her kids ARE part of her policy, IMO. YMMV, as I see it does. n/t truth2power Mar 2013 #246

Double baloney HelenWheels Mar 2013 #49

She's got one in public, one in private, according to the link. So how is she hypocritical? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #58

Not entirely sure I agree. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #218

-1 JVS Mar 2013 #272

i knew she ws a scammer way back when she was here in DC RedstDem Mar 2013 #18

K&R. Brickbat Mar 2013 #21

Thank you. The woman's a phony: The 1% making the rules for the 99%! mountain grammy Mar 2013 #37

On a similar note, my parents wanted me to attend a private school that required a 30+ minute no_hypocrisy Mar 2013 #40

Where do Michelle Rhee's children go to school? Glad you asked.... MyTwoSense Mar 2013 #48

The OP makes it sound like both attend Harpeth, And posters here should ask themselves why. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #70

How old are Rhee's children? Orrex Mar 2013 #105

Because Nashville has no private schools that teach the 4th and below? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #116

K&R Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #56

K&R n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2013 #65

I can see some wriggle room here treestar Mar 2013 #66

The promotional literature on Harpeth contradicts much of what she wants in public schools lolly Mar 2013 #196

Then that's the argument treestar Mar 2013 #238

Con artist Blecht Mar 2013 #87

Looks like you touched a soft spot. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #92

Excellent point... Why isn't this Education reformer fighting for smaller class sized? midnight Mar 2013 #94

You don't have to support Michelle Rhee to say that I would also send my kids to this or one like Pisces Mar 2013 #101

No one is attacking her children jeff47 Mar 2013 #131

^^This Orrex Mar 2013 #132

I don't agree with this argument. Her reforms may be a beginning. But I don't think she or Pisces Mar 2013 #133

You'd have a point, if that's how she described her reforms jeff47 Mar 2013 #135

^^ THIS!!! ^^ is spot on. n/t SomeGuyInEagan Mar 2013 #149

^^^^^^^^^^^^DOUBLE THIS!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ lolly Mar 2013 #199

Her reforms are based on fraud. midnight Mar 2013 #178

No one is attacking her for her that. What she is being criticized for is that sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #217

Recommend jsr Mar 2013 #108

Rahm Emmuel pulling the same shit in Chicago w/his kids in elite private school. Divernan Mar 2013 #115

That's not correct. Duncan and Obama BOTH sent their children there. duffyduff Mar 2013 #142

Do you ever provide a link? Divernan Mar 2013 #219

arne duncan went to the u of chicago lab school. he sends his kids to virginia public schools, but HiPointDem Mar 2013 #226

Holy crap. blackspade Mar 2013 #120

In my opinion, it's just as much about connections as it is education... KansDem Mar 2013 #128

Most definitely. It's really about *CLASS*. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #134

That is the point, but the usual suspects want to claim all of these public school teachers, duffyduff Mar 2013 #153

We have a winner! DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #173

The Blue Jersey covers any sin. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #136

This kis NOT about her children for crying out loud DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #166

Why are you attacking her children? Orrex Mar 2013 #170

I think it's relevant because she's intentionally misrepresenting herself gollygee Mar 2013 #188

The best schools the nation has to offer. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #190

funny how that works out eh ? iamthebandfanman Mar 2013 #191

You forgot the last step-- lolly Mar 2013 #202

Thanks for this... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #206

Can we get some vouchers up in this shit? n/t moondust Mar 2013 #208

My turn to hijack this thread. hay rick Mar 2013 #221

oops. my excuse is, i didn't attend an ivy! just a dumb prole! HiPointDem Mar 2013 #224

I think we should spend hundreds of posts complaining that the OP is too long. jeff47 Mar 2013 #228

Paid for with our swindled tax dollars. n/t Orsino Mar 2013 #227

K&R Teamster Jeff Mar 2013 #229

K&R SunSeeker Mar 2013 #234

Performance-based incentives for teachers, and increased options for parents michigandem58 Mar 2013 #237

Reform is becoming fairly mainstream in the Democratic party"... YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #244

Even after the concerted effort of team blue to derail this, you're top of the greatest page! Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #239

Is she allowed to have children? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #247

Proud to be Rec 99. Prouder still to be a person who despises Rhee. Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 #251

Like Chris Christie in New Jersey tilsammans Mar 2013 #256

I rec'd earlier, glad to give this a kick. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #259

Damaging the country can be Turbineguy Mar 2013 #264

"The comfort of the rich depends on an abundance of the poor." Voltaire Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #269

Thousands of miles from here, which is odd considering she lives here and is married to the mayor. LeftyMom Mar 2013 #273

I was wondering about that too, but since some of the articles made it sound like she herself HiPointDem Mar 2013 #274

This message was self-deleted by its author proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #275

hubby 2? the perv? wowser. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #277

Well now that I Google it, I don't find anything. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 #278