Cheers to Colorado Democrats, who are showing what you DO with a MAJORITY!!

[DanTex]

74. Straw argument: pro-control people don't actually diminish other causes.

Obviously, there are other factors involved. Everyone recognizes that it is not only guns that cause gun violence. The difference is that pro-gun people stubbornly insist that guns do not, or can not possibly play a role, so we should ignore gun availability and only try and address non-gun causes.

How many times has a pro-gunner insisted that "a person dedicated to commit murder will kill regardless of weapon choice" or "someone who really wants to commit suicide will find a way", ignoring the fact that most murders are not committed by people who really want to commit murder, and that most suicidal impulses are temporary, and access to a gun often means the difference between life and death.

The fact that a domestic abuser shoots his wife is both a domestic abuse problem and a gun problem. Without the gun, the wife would likely still be alive. Similar with all of those examples. By all means, address domestic abuse -- nobody is saying that we shouldn't do that. But we should obviously also address the guns as well.

The big difference is there is no "domestic abuse lobby" that is insisting that we do absolutely nothing about domestic abuse, because domestic abuse doesn't kill people. But there is a gun lobby that insists that we do nothing about guns, despite very strong evidence that guns play a role in both homicide rates and suicide rates.