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26. Nonsense. They were bloodsport dogs, not ratters.

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 05:29 PM

Mar 2013

The English forebearer known as the "Bull and Terrier". To say that they are not "similar" to the modern version is true, but to obfuscate their history of blood by calling them ratters is less than honest. However, a basset hound from 1920's that was still used to hunt hare is a very different looking dog than the basset hound of today.

Let's get real. The modern pit as a breed is a mess full of unstable, unhealthy, and unregulated individuals. There are some individual specimens that are not bad dogs. HOwever, as a breed registry, they have NO standardized breeding regulations or objectives, and quite frankly...it shows.

If I wanted a bull type dog, I would get an Old Southern White bulldog. As with any bulldog, expect a certain level of aggressiveness, but they are still bred to type for working people on farms and unstable dogs just will not do.

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Pit Bulls Were Never "Nanny Dogs". Never. It's A Myth [View all] KittyWampus Mar 2013 OP

Okay. And? n/t Scootaloo Mar 2013 #1

And what? I've seen this myth posted twice now on DU. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #2

Well, I presumed maybe you had a point to make. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #3

And the pitbull lobby doesnt? ErikJ Mar 2013 #4

'Course we do. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #7

always wondered, was this argument adopted DrDan Mar 2013 #77

Difference is, a dog is a living thing Scootaloo Mar 2013 #87

btw, I have never advocated destroying any . . . DrDan Mar 2013 #88

Well, you're trying to draw a false equivalence between animals and tools Scootaloo Mar 2013 #89

I am suggesting an equivalence between two arguments DrDan Mar 2013 #91

And doing a very bad job of it. onenote Mar 2013 #95

why don't you take a look at to whom that question was addressed DrDan Mar 2013 #98

Death sentence BSL kewlbeanspx Jun 2013 #111

WTF is the "pitbull lobby"? jazzimov Mar 2013 #53

There's no doubt the blogger has an agenda alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #6

The pit bull as such didn't exist in the 19th century Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #9

Oh, OK alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #13

... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #18

Cool...I should say I have no dog in this fight, so to speak alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #21

Seriously, right? Myrina Mar 2013 #78

Be prepared for ... 99Forever Mar 2013 #5

. . . . . WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #8

Pit bulls are nanny dogs only if they're breast feeding at the Olive Garden Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #10

Doh! progressoid Mar 2013 #12

... Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #15

YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!! (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #44

And eating fried chicken Aerows Mar 2013 #85

I don't know about Nanny, but I saw one nursing a small child at the Olive Garden. progressoid Mar 2013 #11

Amazing the lengths DUers will go to Rex Mar 2013 #14

To what whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #19

I have owned 2 pit bulls and 2 Rottweilers and they were all sweethearts. RebelOne Mar 2013 #16

And more dangerous too whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #20

Right! So dangerous that the poster can't respond jazzimov Mar 2013 #57

I've had Rotties... one_voice Mar 2013 #24

The only dog that has ever bitten me in anger was a Rottweiler. He came off bike man Mar 2013 #42

they have to be properly socialised. sibelian Mar 2013 #43

the little brainless ones can be very snappish, they get confused ThomThom Mar 2013 #73

Staffordshire terriers were bred to hunt vermin BainsBane Mar 2013 #17

No they weren't? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #23

source? BainsBane Mar 2013 #25

... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #29

ok, thanks. BainsBane Mar 2013 #65

Nonsense. They were bloodsport dogs, not ratters. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #26

the mess BainsBane Mar 2013 #28

No. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #33

dogs are rehabilitated all the time BainsBane Mar 2013 #35

I am factually correct. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #38

Factually, no you're not. jazzimov Mar 2013 #62

You need to stop Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #69

I'll take a dog trainer's opinion Aerows Mar 2013 #92

that is not true BainsBane Mar 2013 #64

Lies, lies, and more lies. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #70

Pay attention to what you just said BainsBane Mar 2013 #76

You are discussing this with a dog breeder Aerows Mar 2013 #93

That he's a dog breeder doesn't make him right BainsBane Mar 2013 #97

He breeds and trains hunting dogs Aerows Mar 2013 #99

Hunting Dogs janlyn Mar 2013 #104

The worst thing my Doberman ever did Aerows Mar 2013 #86

Very nicely said! Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #48

You really aren't serious, jazzimov Mar 2013 #60

This post so so full of idiotcy jazzimov Mar 2013 #56

Since you asked, Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #71

In my experience, people who excuse their dogs' aggressiveness as "protection" KurtNYC Mar 2013 #80

animal control BainsBane Mar 2013 #82

If she bit the Fed Ex guy Aerows Mar 2013 #94

Serious dogs for serious people. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #100

The problems aren't caused by the dogs -its humans who just get the dog they deserve. Sunlei Mar 2013 #83

I agree whole-heartedly with what you're saying. pitbulllady Oct 2013 #113

Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #114

Indeed they were Aerows Mar 2013 #90

LOL, still using that biased bullshit website I see. MadHound Mar 2013 #22

And you would trust the AKC why? Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #27

The AKC won't register pit bulls and doesn't recognise the breed Spider Jerusalem Mar 2013 #31

Hes talking about the Am Staff if he's talking AKC. DevonRex Mar 2013 #63

Do you have a link for that? n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #110

Can I ask why there's so much hatred directed at this breed of dog. Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #30

Raised in the wrong hands they are dangerous madville Mar 2013 #32

Any dog of similar size can - and does - do similar damage. baldguy Mar 2013 #34

Of course any dog of similar size can be raised wrong madville Mar 2013 #36

And that is just completely wrong. Drahthaardogs Mar 2013 #39

Can you imagine what Ceaser Milan would say baldguy Mar 2013 #46

He would say "No shit sherlock" Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #50

Obviously, you have no idea what you're talking about. jazzimov Mar 2013 #51

Okay, glad you have it all figured out :) Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #59

The lovely Malamute is sometimes mixed with wolves for disastrous results axollot Mar 2013 #72

Not true michigandem58 Mar 2013 #45

What is it about the "anatomy of their mouths"? baldguy Mar 2013 #47

Not true. jazzimov Mar 2013 #52

First time I saw one Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #75

Speaking of myths... Recursion Mar 2013 #81

Raised in the wrong hands we are violent and have the power to completely wipe ourselves out Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #40

That's my point, bans are ridiculous madville Mar 2013 #41

very bad analogy Brainstormy Mar 2013 #84

Have you ever seen a dachshund, spaniel, yorkie, etc., do this? Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #58

I was attacked by a Jack Russell when I was young I've never been attacked by a pit or Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #61

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #66

Pussy is a sexist, anti-woman slur. roody Mar 2013 #67

next you'll be telling us that King Cobras are dangerous for kids Enrique Mar 2013 #37

No but Chihuahua's are killers... JoeBlowToo Mar 2013 #101

I think some take the term "nanny dog" too literally. It just means they were good Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #49

First, specify which breed we are discussing. DevonRex Mar 2013 #54

Nonsense. I was raised by a pack of Cordoba Fighting Dogs when I was young... JVS Mar 2013 #55

Leave it to a Kitty pick on Dogs. donheld Mar 2013 #68

My neighbors' kitty picks on my Pit Bull every day. baldguy Mar 2013 #74

The "Bull" in "Pit Bull" comes from the sport of "Bull Baiting". If you think what Mike Vick did was Erose999 Mar 2013 #79

My obedience trainer Aerows Mar 2013 #96

Your trainer was a numbskull... JoeBlowToo Mar 2013 #102

She trained world-class obedience dogs Aerows Mar 2013 #105

When it comes to this topic yes,,, JoeBlowToo Mar 2013 #107

All depends on your thoughts Aerows Mar 2013 #108

Do you find that ridiculous? Do roody Mar 2013 #109

Scream all you want, it WAS called the nanny dog. DiverDave Mar 2013 #103

Hmm, who to believe? A biased, bullshit blogger, MadHound Mar 2013 #106

pictures don't lie fairiesinflight Jul 2013 #112

Weaker than you think MichelKS Jan 2014 #115