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HereSince1628

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61. This depends somewhat on parsing of the difference between 'permit' and license.

Tue Mar 12, 2013, 10:26 AM

Mar 2013

For example In some places hunting requires a 'permit' not a license. In other places hunting requires a 'license' rather than a permit. In some places hunting for certain species requires a general license and a specific permit.

Being licensed hasn't always and sometimes still doesn't require specific knowledge.

The crux of the gun problem ISN'T being licensed, or even knowing certain information about the proper use and handling of a weapon.

The problem is the misuse of firearms despite often in the face of certain knowledge that threatening and/or shooting people as a means to satisfy a personal urge such as punishing, avenging, or calling attention to a personal crisis (as opposed to an emergency need for protection of human life) is morally and criminally objectionable.

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What don't you need a license for? [View all] DainBramaged Mar 2013 OP

Which one in the above list michreject Mar 2013 #1

That's not the question, but since you must spew, go right ahead DainBramaged Mar 2013 #3

Cars and guns are licensed exactly the same way. hack89 Mar 2013 #11

I don't believe that a license is required michreject Mar 2013 #13

Yep Go Vols Mar 2013 #128

Ah, but in Florida a car on private land still has to have a tag csziggy Mar 2013 #137

Storing it where? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #152

The truck was parked behind a storage building csziggy Mar 2013 #169

Dear DB, your question should read - What can't you "use" without a license. Or your answers should The Wielding Truth Mar 2013 #102

Thanks. I think I made my point, in spite of the 'proies' attempt to try sidetracking it. DainBramaged Mar 2013 #126

Just a simple question michreject Mar 2013 #6

Still, wasn't the question, but I'm happy you reminded us DainBramaged Mar 2013 #8

It doesn't michreject Mar 2013 #10

Where's your militia? sharp_stick Mar 2013 #28

It's defined in the 1947 National Security Act Recursion Mar 2013 #57

Sitting on the couch michreject Mar 2013 #95

The Post Office baldguy Mar 2013 #33

My reading skills may not be as superior to yours michreject Mar 2013 #94

Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the Constitution. baldguy Mar 2013 #113

Doesn't it suck having to point out the Constitution they all claim to love so much... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #127

They even tend to forget over half of their favorite Amendment. baldguy Mar 2013 #131

They've run out of talking points DainBramaged Mar 2013 #163

but that "protection" can be restricted DrDan Mar 2013 #155

Driving my car on private property. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #2

Of course, I was expecting the swarm, but not this early in the thread DainBramaged Mar 2013 #5

When you post flawed and disingenuous posts polls, what do you expect? hack89 Mar 2013 #9

Right DainBramaged Mar 2013 #19

Concealed carry permits are the 'license' to carry in public. hack89 Mar 2013 #24

I don't need to show a DL when buying a gun michreject Mar 2013 #27

No background check at point of sale because background check was already done to get OGKush Mar 2013 #72

Correct michreject Mar 2013 #96

Don't you love it sylvi Mar 2013 #48

an anti DainBramaged Mar 2013 #78

I guess you can sylvi Mar 2013 #101

Aw, Be Gentle. Paladin Mar 2013 #12

But you need a license to carry a gun in public hack89 Mar 2013 #15

Oh, so I'm fundamentally dishonest because you don't like the poll? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #21

Your poll is dishonest. You know that cars and guns are licensed in a similar manner hack89 Mar 2013 #26

fOLKS THAT don't CONCEAL CARRY but want to just buy a GUN don't need a PERMIT DainBramaged Mar 2013 #30

You don't need a license to buy a car either so what's your point? hack89 Mar 2013 #34

Nice try, we're done go back to your precious DainBramaged Mar 2013 #38

Do you need a license to buy a car? Simple question you keep avoiding. hack89 Mar 2013 #41

you still got me on ignore? snooper2 Mar 2013 #54

You need to capitalize "precious", otherwise it seems like you forgot a word. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #58

I can buy a long gun in MI without a license michreject Mar 2013 #97

"You do need a license to carry a gun in public rdharma Mar 2013 #104

I was referring to concealed carry permits. hack89 Mar 2013 #106

"11 states require licenses for open carry" rdharma Mar 2013 #107

My opinion is that open carry is just plain DUMB. premium Mar 2013 #110

Open carry in the wilderness? No problem, in the city? Stupid. rdharma Mar 2013 #117

Yes - I meant hand guns. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #111

They try SO HARD but AS SOON as you say "license all guns" they go ballistic and change color DainBramaged Mar 2013 #81

Licensing gun owners and registering guns are two different things Recursion Mar 2013 #89

I'm for both, and for you having as many as you want DainBramaged Mar 2013 #90

Makes sense to me. premium Mar 2013 #93

The license idea solves the "gun show loophole" completely Recursion Mar 2013 #108

Do you still need dog licenses over there ? dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #4

Yes, but getting people to get them is difficult DainBramaged Mar 2013 #7

I assume shots refers to rabies dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #16

It depends on where you live. surrealAmerican Mar 2013 #40

Who thinks you don't need a license for teaching? nt LWolf Mar 2013 #14

Don't you become the teacher michreject Mar 2013 #18

Most states LWolf Mar 2013 #22

Nice try DainBramaged Mar 2013 #23

Is certification same as a license ? dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #20

Yes. LWolf Mar 2013 #25

Lots of private schools will hire unlicensed teachers (nt) Recursion Mar 2013 #46

OH? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #82

Yes, they can hire uncertified teachers, but most of them do hire licensed because the market duffyduff Mar 2013 #123

OH? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #125

Link. Straw Man Mar 2013 #135

HAHAHA no, not close DainBramaged Mar 2013 #138

So glad you're amused. Straw Man Mar 2013 #140

Do I have to do everything around here? Recursion Mar 2013 #153

I wasn't counting private schools. LWolf Mar 2013 #149

That's basically private schools that don't have to have all their teachers be certified duffyduff Mar 2013 #122

Undergraduate and graduate school teachers One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #130

In public or private universities? LWolf Mar 2013 #150

License to sell real estate or insurance HockeyMom Mar 2013 #17

Unfortunately, in the abusive state I live in, you need one for all of the above Ter Mar 2013 #29

Well we appreciate your participation and your comment is duly noted DainBramaged Mar 2013 #31

No I'm not Ter Mar 2013 #164

Which of those listed, SayWut Mar 2013 #32

Which of those listed, baldguy Mar 2013 #35

Regulation in what sense, usage or definition? SayWut Mar 2013 #39

What do you mean by "specifically protected"? baldguy Mar 2013 #43

One that enjoys it's own Constitional amendment. SayWut Mar 2013 #47

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state." You mean that one? baldguy Mar 2013 #60

well regulated DainBramaged Mar 2013 #63

Meaning armed and trained michreject Mar 2013 #98

Meaning controlled by a duly empowered authority. baldguy Mar 2013 #114

The Supreme Court disagrees with you. SayWut Mar 2013 #64

Oh sorta like tough shit from a tough guy? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #71

Wow... You don't like anyone that disagrees with you... OGKush Mar 2013 #73

I like President Obama very much..... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #76

You don't like the NRA, I understand. But that doesn't make someone who disagrees with you OGKush Mar 2013 #85

Whatever DainBramaged Mar 2013 #87

You're the one lecturing people who do the agree with you. OGKush Mar 2013 #100

Since when do gun nuts care about what the fed govt says? baldguy Mar 2013 #115

It's whatever is convenient for them at the moment DainBramaged Mar 2013 #134

The President and party platform consider the right to bear arms an individual right hack89 Mar 2013 #121

Voting Dr. Strange Mar 2013 #36

Well I'd call registration a kind of "license" Recursion Mar 2013 #45

Keep trying. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #37

Which one is automatically forbidden to felons? Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #42

You don't need a license for most of those on private property Recursion Mar 2013 #44

Right, the private property argument DainBramaged Mar 2013 #49

I'm not sure what you think a circular argument is, but mine isn't one Recursion Mar 2013 #52

My question was simple, because you're trying (as have others) to turn this in your favor DainBramaged Mar 2013 #62

Are you sure you need a valid license to BUY a car? hughee99 Mar 2013 #119

Every state has laws that specify how a firearm can be legally transported and not qualify as... slackmaster Mar 2013 #56

Having tons of kids. Quantess Mar 2013 #50

Don't or shouldn't? yurbud Mar 2013 #51

Don't in most states (I listed them) DainBramaged Mar 2013 #65

You left out "Owning a car" slackmaster Mar 2013 #53

For stupid. lonestarnot Mar 2013 #55

You are right. Stupid is free and forever. slackmaster Mar 2013 #59

This depends somewhat on parsing of the difference between 'permit' and license. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #61

Heavy Equipment 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #66

Other: Writing stupid posts on the internet The Straight Story Mar 2013 #67

Oh I agree..... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #69

You don't need a license to own a car kudzu22 Mar 2013 #68

And what age do you have to be to buy a car? How do you prove that age (normally) DainBramaged Mar 2013 #70

There's no age requirement to buy a car, premium Mar 2013 #75

Yes there is just stop DainBramaged Mar 2013 #77

Thanks for the welcome. premium Mar 2013 #79

You can't register the car till you are 18, laws have changed since B4 Nixon DainBramaged Mar 2013 #80

It only has to be registered if it's going to be driven on public roads, premium Mar 2013 #83

One only need be of "legal age" to sign a CONTRACT. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #158

Pointing out that you're comparing ownership to usage in public... beevul Mar 2013 #146

A tangent, or can't you differentiate that from the subject at hand? DainBramaged Mar 2013 #147

I noted this post earlier and decided to check later to see if it went the way I figured it would. 11 Bravo Mar 2013 #74

80+ posts, and everybody focused on the flame-bait poll and not the adorable puppy? petronius Mar 2013 #84

English Bull Terriers, my favorite breed!!! DainBramaged Mar 2013 #91

Every time this thread pops back to the top, I open it to look at the pic again petronius Mar 2013 #142

So many good ops over the last couple of months for gun safety and regulation. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #86

Oh well sorry to disappoint you DainBramaged Mar 2013 #88

Duh libodem Mar 2013 #92

being a parent librechik Mar 2013 #99

+1 and once again, we need a like/recommend option for comments. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #103

Love the dogs BainsBane Mar 2013 #105

I truly wish.... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #112

You do have pets, don't you? BainsBane Mar 2013 #129

Oh yes, and we foster dogs too.... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #133

that's great BainsBane Mar 2013 #154

That photo is adorable! Solly Mack Mar 2013 #109

In actuality...none of the above, BUT if you get caught by the law doing it SoCalDem Mar 2013 #116

don't or shouldn't? arely staircase Mar 2013 #118

Having children REP Mar 2013 #120

Teaching, I live in Mass One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #124

a degree is a kind of license showing you know the subject matter. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #136

a degree and a license are separate things ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #156

certification isn't required for college teachers and never has been. the degrees are the proof HiPointDem Mar 2013 #157

sorry... missed the college part ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #160

a few geek_sabre Mar 2013 #132

Once and for all, we are AFUCKINGSUMMING PUBLIC usage of cars and teachers in public school DainBramaged Mar 2013 #139

Correction: YOU are assuming. Straw Man Mar 2013 #141

Whatever, bask in your purity DainBramaged Mar 2013 #143

Thank you. Straw Man Mar 2013 #145

Hmm geek_sabre Mar 2013 #170

Well gunnies, 37 to 8, nice try DainBramaged Mar 2013 #144

Constant unintentional comedy gold... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #159

Polls are good for illuminating ignorance hack89 Mar 2013 #161

Awwwwww aren't you cute......... DainBramaged Mar 2013 #162

Proving that guns and cars are licensed in a nearly identical manner? hack89 Mar 2013 #165

Boy this really pissed you off DainBramaged Mar 2013 #166

YOU pull a temper tantrum and I am the one pissed off? Ok. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #167

Thanks for the childish and petty DU mail hack89 Mar 2013 #168

Those are not equivalent licenses alarimer Mar 2013 #148

Posting polls on the internet. nt pintobean Mar 2013 #151