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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Ashley will FIRST have to win the Democratic Primary,
Tue Mar 12, 2013, 06:16 PM
Mar 2013

and it is THERE that the DSCC, DNC, Party leadership, and entrenched party Power Brokers will pull out all the stops to prevent a "Liberal" from representing the Democratic Party.

Expect to hear this myth a lot:
[font size=3]"Every pragmatic, sensible Democrat knows that You HAVE to run a Conservative Democrat to win in a Red State."[/font]
The perpetuation of the above LIE has done MORE to corrupt the Democratic Party over the last 30 years than any other.

A good Populist Democrat (a la Huey Long) running on the Traditional Economic Values of FDR/JBJ , with Party Support can WIN in any state.

We tried to replace Blue Dog Anti-Labor Blanche Lincoln in the Arkansas Primary 2010.
Guess WHO was our WORST enemy.

"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln. Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure. Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests. The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln — a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just don’t have the votes for.

<snip>

What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face. Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you. Obama’s support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"

<much more>

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/


We can be hopeful that she might survive the Democratic Primary,
and the entrenched conservative Power Structure that runs the Party there.
She WILL be an outsider, but with HUGE Name Recognition. If the early polls are overwhelming, the Big Business Friendly, Conservative Party Establishment will likely Let-this-one-Through,
and focus their efforts in other more rewarding areas.

I will be supporting her.
Good Looks, Popularity, Hollywood Idol Worship, and Name Recognition DOES WIN ELECTIONS,
a sad fact of life, but a fact none the less.
We SHOULD take advantage of this at every opportunity.

George Clooney or Tim Robbins for PRESIDENT!!!

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"If Ashely Jud runs, she will be elected." Well, this may not be true. Swamp Lover Mar 2013 #1
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #45
Fuckin' A. Iggo Mar 2013 #65
What... Ztolkins Mar 2013 #113
She can be my second surrogate Senator House of Roberts Mar 2013 #2
Mine, too! Delmette Mar 2013 #15
Democratic deurbano Mar 2013 #18
Thank you for making this correction, leftieNanner Mar 2013 #21
My bad. Delmette Mar 2013 #26
I know what you mean thucythucy Mar 2013 #43
Why did you use "correctly" correctly in your first sentence and incorrectly in maddiemom Mar 2013 #107
Honestly, I have trouble Control-Z Mar 2013 #39
Oh God, I know how you feel.... ReRe Mar 2013 #42
We have Mark Pryor. If you know what I mean. Blanks Mar 2013 #97
My sympathies of course ReRe Mar 2013 #114
She can be my 3rd after Sanders & Warren. In NC I have a blue dog Dem & Burr.... tpsbmam Mar 2013 #125
Heaping big K&R n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #3
The Can't folks, I think would rather deal with a TeaPubliKlan if they can't get a TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #4
She's my Elizabeth Warren for 2014. onehandle Mar 2013 #5
what was so sad Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #6
Ashley Judd is running for Senator. If you live anywhere in Kentucky you CAN vote for her. TheDebbieDee Mar 2013 #16
That's odd Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #31
Maybe you only voted in the Bunning years......The elections for Senator are staggered TheDebbieDee Mar 2013 #50
I remember in every election since 1998 Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #57
Then you didn't look hard enough Ter Mar 2013 #68
I got some crow to eat Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #69
McConnel should have been on your ballot in dsc Mar 2013 #81
You're putting someone on ignore for being correct? Fawke Em Mar 2013 #99
Are you sure you've been voting every two years, not only in Presidential elections? merrily Mar 2013 #102
"If memory serves, they go by District." waddirum Mar 2013 #90
I just asked my old roommate Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #96
You and your old roommate may be thinking of state senator. merrily Mar 2013 #103
Bunning was a U.S. congressman from 1987-99, before he was a U.S. senator. Tanuki Mar 2013 #111
Yep Coolest Ranger Mar 2013 #112
Guilty as charged... Indepatriot Mar 2013 #7
What a fantastic post! nt rivegauche Mar 2013 #20
You should post that as an OP. that's great. Pirate Smile Mar 2013 #28
Your post gave me goose-bumps. PearliePoo2 Mar 2013 #88
Go Ashley! Little Star Mar 2013 #8
And I thought it was poll numbers... bobclark86 Mar 2013 #9
The last I heard... ReRe Mar 2013 #48
reality check daybranch Mar 2013 #67
Well said Walk away Mar 2013 #74
Jack was and is the AG. Paul took Dumbings seat and beat out establishment SoS to do so. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #78
The Establishment Party Bosses Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #10
She's as electable.... paleotn Mar 2013 #17
Ask the Democratic party. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #33
I always have trouble with "theys"... ReRe Mar 2013 #52
The Party Bosses. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #55
The folks who show up and vote at the Democratic primaries are the ones who make these decisions Telly Savalas Mar 2013 #70
With all due respect Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #84
Exactly. People said the same thing when Al Franken ran BlueStreak Mar 2013 #82
how do you know that? stillcool Mar 2013 #44
1) It's being leaked all over the media, Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #47
yeah...there's a lot.. stillcool Mar 2013 #54
Does anyone know how the DSCC distributes campaign funding? rhett o rick Mar 2013 #11
Ashley will FIRST have to win the Democratic Primary, bvar22 Mar 2013 #23
I agree. And who was our worst enemy when we tried to kick Lieberman's ass out of Conn? rhett o rick Mar 2013 #27
"They" NEEDED Joe Lieberman. bvar22 Mar 2013 #36
You are such a skeptic. rhett o rick Mar 2013 #41
Excellent! Thanks for mentioning Huey Long. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #122
Judd might benefit from a revenge factor. Jim Lane Mar 2013 #104
I hope so. But two things. Democrats havent shown me that they "payback". rhett o rick Mar 2013 #108
I can't speak for the DSCC tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #123
I dont know much about Ms. Judd's qualifications, but to defeat rhett o rick Mar 2013 #127
I agree tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #128
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #12
Ready or not - here she comes. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2013 #13
That's quite a mixed bag you've chosen there. harmonicon Mar 2013 #14
Qualified fistbump from me. rivegauche Mar 2013 #19
The US Senate is a fucking joke Telly Savalas Mar 2013 #71
So has no chance Carnage251 Mar 2013 #22
Are you kidding? bvar22 Mar 2013 #53
Not only America or American Idol... ReRe Mar 2013 #59
no he isnt kidding blueknight Mar 2013 #60
the entire country LOVES Hollywood waddirum Mar 2013 #91
What is the entertainment capital of the Bible belt? pstokely Mar 2013 #93
The south/republicans don't care too much about Hollywood Carnage251 Mar 2013 #105
Lived in KY since 1977 Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #100
How could you forget... RoccoRyg Mar 2013 #24
I did forget, but thankfully you didn't, RoccoRyg. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #118
In a situation like this it is really, really simple for me. Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2013 #25
When the time comes, I'll be happy to hurl some money at her from up here in NY. n/t eggplant Mar 2013 #29
The problem is all of those people had more political experience in their pinky than she does BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #30
Yeah, and all those Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #35
Unfortunately, the price for "Political Experience" is Political Indebtedness. bvar22 Mar 2013 #49
Exactly!!! n/t Sophiegirl Mar 2013 #58
Al Franken never served in office prior to winning his election waddirum Mar 2013 #92
Anyone who compares her to Warren needs to have their head examined BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #98
agree upi402 Mar 2013 #32
A lot of it will depend on John2 Mar 2013 #34
love the post and love the spirit, however grantcart Mar 2013 #37
Don't forget Senator Franken :) (n/t) a2liberal Mar 2013 #38
Yes, indeed. See my post #118. Thank you for the reminder. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #120
I'm glad you posted this. Firebrand Gary Mar 2013 #40
Ventura, Schwarzenegger, St Ronald of Reagan, Ruby the Liberal Mar 2013 #46
McConnell has tons of cash too. And more will come in for him. Bake Mar 2013 #61
We have your back, Bake Ruby the Liberal Mar 2013 #64
Ever notice it's guys that make this claim? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #51
Did you read the whole post? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #75
Sure. It's about how the doomsayers have a track record of being wrong.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #79
Ashley Judd will have to run....... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #56
"channel her inner Huey Long". David Zephyr Mar 2013 #121
Thanks, but remember..... socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #126
I agree with everything you said until your last sentence. Bake Mar 2013 #62
She will have to explain some of her past comments LittleBlue Mar 2013 #63
K&R ReRe Mar 2013 #66
Hell, Kentucky elected The Wizard Mar 2013 #72
Ashley Judd or My Name's Mudd! NBachers Mar 2013 #73
Who said that about... brooklynite Mar 2013 #76
How many movie stars have failed to win? aquart Mar 2013 #77
How many Hollywood starts have ran in the bible belt? pstokely Mar 2013 #95
Fred Thompson. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #101
Ben Jones (Cooter from "Dukes of Hazard") won congressional seat in Georgia... cascadiance Mar 2013 #115
Davey Crockett. toby jo Mar 2013 #124
Come back when you can answer the question you were asked. aquart Mar 2013 #129
I've given her support Mosaic Mar 2013 #80
HUGE K&R (nt) demosocialist Mar 2013 #83
This is the whole point of Dean's 50 State Strategy. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #85
Yes. Howard Dean took back the Congress in a mid-term when Bush was riding high. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #119
Sounds good to me. BootinUp Mar 2013 #86
I don't care if she can win. The people of Kentucky deserve a decent candidate FreeBC Mar 2013 #87
Amen!! 7wo7rees Mar 2013 #89
I'll volunteer for her campaign lexington filly Mar 2013 #94
Or Donnelly of Indiana could never beat Senator Lugar. LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #106
And one wonders still if John Cougar Mellencamp might have won in previous Indiana election... cascadiance Mar 2013 #116
I think her main liability will be madville Mar 2013 #109
Don't really agree with your examples at all RZM Mar 2013 #110
I have to admit I don't recall ANYONE saying Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren hughee99 Mar 2013 #117
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