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In reply to the discussion: The Reasons Ashley Judd Can Not Win in Kentucky... [View all]bvar22
(39,909 posts)23. Ashley will FIRST have to win the Democratic Primary,
and it is THERE that the DSCC, DNC, Party leadership, and entrenched party Power Brokers will pull out all the stops to prevent a "Liberal" from representing the Democratic Party.
Expect to hear this myth a lot:
[font size=3]"Every pragmatic, sensible Democrat knows that You HAVE to run a Conservative Democrat to win in a Red State."[/font]
The perpetuation of the above LIE has done MORE to corrupt the Democratic Party over the last 30 years than any other.
A good Populist Democrat (a la Huey Long) running on the Traditional Economic Values of FDR/JBJ , with Party Support can WIN in any state.
We tried to replace Blue Dog Anti-Labor Blanche Lincoln in the Arkansas Primary 2010.
Guess WHO was our WORST enemy.
"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln. Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure. Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests. The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just dont have the votes for.
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What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse weve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesnt have 60 votes to pass good legislation, its not Obamas fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face. Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you dont support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but well support a primary challenger against you. Obamas support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"
<much more>
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/
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What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse weve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesnt have 60 votes to pass good legislation, its not Obamas fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face. Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you dont support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but well support a primary challenger against you. Obamas support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"
<much more>
http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/
We can be hopeful that she might survive the Democratic Primary,
and the entrenched conservative Power Structure that runs the Party there.
She WILL be an outsider, but with HUGE Name Recognition. If the early polls are overwhelming, the Big Business Friendly, Conservative Party Establishment will likely Let-this-one-Through,
and focus their efforts in other more rewarding areas.
I will be supporting her.
Good Looks, Popularity, Hollywood Idol Worship, and Name Recognition DOES WIN ELECTIONS,
a sad fact of life, but a fact none the less.
We SHOULD take advantage of this at every opportunity.
George Clooney or Tim Robbins for PRESIDENT!!!
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Why did you use "correctly" correctly in your first sentence and incorrectly in
maddiemom
Mar 2013
#107
She can be my 3rd after Sanders & Warren. In NC I have a blue dog Dem & Burr....
tpsbmam
Mar 2013
#125
The Can't folks, I think would rather deal with a TeaPubliKlan if they can't get a
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#4
Ashley Judd is running for Senator. If you live anywhere in Kentucky you CAN vote for her.
TheDebbieDee
Mar 2013
#16
Maybe you only voted in the Bunning years......The elections for Senator are staggered
TheDebbieDee
Mar 2013
#50
Are you sure you've been voting every two years, not only in Presidential elections?
merrily
Mar 2013
#102
Jack was and is the AG. Paul took Dumbings seat and beat out establishment SoS to do so.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#78
The folks who show up and vote at the Democratic primaries are the ones who make these decisions
Telly Savalas
Mar 2013
#70
I agree. And who was our worst enemy when we tried to kick Lieberman's ass out of Conn?
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#27
I hope so. But two things. Democrats havent shown me that they "payback".
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#108
When the time comes, I'll be happy to hurl some money at her from up here in NY. n/t
eggplant
Mar 2013
#29
The problem is all of those people had more political experience in their pinky than she does
BeyondGeography
Mar 2013
#30
Sure. It's about how the doomsayers have a track record of being wrong....
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2013
#79
Ben Jones (Cooter from "Dukes of Hazard") won congressional seat in Georgia...
cascadiance
Mar 2013
#115
Yes. Howard Dean took back the Congress in a mid-term when Bush was riding high.
David Zephyr
Mar 2013
#119
And one wonders still if John Cougar Mellencamp might have won in previous Indiana election...
cascadiance
Mar 2013
#116
I have to admit I don't recall ANYONE saying Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren
hughee99
Mar 2013
#117