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In reply to the discussion: Third Way has been trying to privatize Social Security since 1990s. This is not playing chess. [View all]madfloridian
(88,117 posts)69. Obama will now have to "deal with the losers in a globalized economy." His own words.
He said it would not be bloodless, and it is not going to be. He was right in 2006 when he said those words.
Obama and the Hamiltonian Democrats.
Obama is speaking of Robert Rubin. They were talking about the "losers" in the new free market economy.
Bob and I have had a running debate now for about a year about how do we, in fact, deal with the losers in a globalized economy. There has been a tendency in the past for us to say, well, look, we have got to grow the pie, and we will retrain those who need retraining. But in fact we have never taken that side of the equation as seriously as we need to take it. So hopefully, this is not just going to be a lot of preaching to the choir. Hopefully, part of what we are going to be doing is challenging our own conventional wisdom and pushing boundaries and testing these ideas in a vigorous and aggressive way.
....Just remember, as we move forward, that there are real consequences to the work that is being done here. There are people in places like Decatur, Illinois, or Galesburg,Illinois, who have seen their jobs eliminated. They have lost their health care. They have lost their retirement security. They don't have a clear sense of how their children will succeed in the same way that they succeeded. They believe that this may be the first generation in which their children do worse than they do. Some of that, then, will end up manifesting itself in the sort of nativist sentiment, protectionism, and anti-immigration sentiment that we are debating here in Washington. So there are real consequences to the work that is being done here. This is not a bloodless process.
Seniors will be the "losers", and I fear the Democrats up for re-election will also be losers if the president follows through on compromising with the extremists.
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Third Way has been trying to privatize Social Security since 1990s. This is not playing chess. [View all]
madfloridian
Mar 2013
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I think that is the hardest thing to persuade people of, plus the hardest thing to accept
duffyduff
Mar 2013
#84
"Third Way," also known as the "New Democrats." They're GOP-lite all the way.
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2013
#6
I have lived in the DC metro area since I was in the 4th grade of elementary school
Samantha
Mar 2013
#7
The party has been infiltrated by neoliberals who are little more than gangsters
duffyduff
Mar 2013
#8
Little more than gangsters? No, they're republicans too weak to make it their own party. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#22
They're gangsters. It's all about robbing the public treasury for private profit. n/t
duffyduff
Mar 2013
#87
I can accept that premise as well. But living in a city that was run by actual gangsters, I have to
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#114
The "Third Way" guys are wimps terrified of being beaten up by Conservative Media...
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2013
#94
Blind Pragmatism is the enemy. It's only care is to do the doable & compromise makes more doable
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#38
+100000000000. Anyone who trusts what a politician says on this issue just because s/he
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#26
Name who you are talking about. Let's stop using bogeyman terms. Which elected officials are
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#40
Stop using logical fallacies and generalizations and then you won't be accused of doing it. nt
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#53
Then let the Democrats prove me wrong. They need to go on TV or write op eds...
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#56
If you have a strong argument, you don't need bogeyman terms. It's that simple.
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#55
Protest voters against the democratic party have allowed the teaparty to take office
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#62
Now be honest, if they said anyone 50 and over will be grandfathered in
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#66
It's a strawman to suggest that anyone here would not support Democrats. The discussion is about
rhett o rick
Mar 2013
#99
Wait a minute please -- the "Third Way" nomenclature was openly discussed in Clinton's autobiography
Samantha
Mar 2013
#134
I didn't really remember that but your link was interesting, particularly this:
Samantha
Mar 2013
#138
Can you post a link and point to the obvious? I've seen no such thing.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2013
#102
This is the 1st time in my memory that a Dem president OFFERED it up to extremists.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#95
It's really very simple, no one who lies about SS in order to try to cut benefits,
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#44
Obama will now have to "deal with the losers in a globalized economy." His own words.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#69
The Third Way (with their outsourcing and "free trade") destroyed the tax base.
Romulox
Mar 2013
#63
The third way are an essential mechanism whereby the right-wing achieves their core economic agenda
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#70
Just a few nights ago I saw David Brooks and Mark Shields "debating" but actually agreeing
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#112
"defining the disregarding of the will of the people as "showing leadership and courage."
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#115
"maybe even have to allow them to move in with them": And when there are several siblings?
WinkyDink
Mar 2013
#105
Still waiting on a proposal from said Democrats that gives specifics re: "cutting" The Big Three.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Mar 2013
#101
Third Way site today is recycling a 2012 article called Collision Course, lecturing baby boomers
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#103