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nadinbrzezinski

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109. One of them did describe in graphic detail

Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:23 PM

Mar 2013

The missing lower jaw of her son

I am willing to bet if Noah's mother thought it would make a real difference, she would.

Don't worry, no news editor will run them. Those photos have blood in them, lots of it, and mangled bodies. That scares news editors to no end...take my word on this. A little blood scares them, by the bucketful, they will run away at breakneck speed.

This is not 1957 or 1968. Those photos MM spoke off, our current, corporate run media, will not run. Why? Well, the reasons stated...people might turn against something we like to use to keep them proles divided.

Go ahead, call me cynical.

If she decides to release such photos, or anybody else does, they will have to be released by non media types...our media has a yellow corporate streak running down their back.

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America, You Must Not Look Away (How to Finish Off the NRA) ...a letter from Michael Moore [View all] Mira Mar 2013 OP

The people we've voted for since Columbine � with the exception of Michael Bloomberg ... graham4anything Mar 2013 #1

Oh yes they did, they let the assault weapons ban expire (2004) mountain grammy Mar 2013 #49

K&R abelenkpe Mar 2013 #2

this was the most difficult thing I have ever read from MM. mikeysnot Mar 2013 #3

Same here - and there have been many that were tough to swallow Mira Mar 2013 #10

I went into the kitchen and hugged my boy mikeysnot Mar 2013 #62

It seems like the mother of Emmett Till's heroism has been forgotten Bay Boy Mar 2013 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Bay Boy Mar 2013 #6

Truth hurts, doesn't it? I guess that is why you find it "disgusting." IdaBriggs Mar 2013 #7

I don't want mutilated children either... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #11

The *tools* were what MUTILATED the bodies of the children. IdaBriggs Mar 2013 #16

So you feel if the AR-15 Bay Boy Mar 2013 #71

If you add the "or other high capacity weapon, then the death toll wouldn't have been as high" IdaBriggs Mar 2013 #89

We help those people by making sure they can't buy a gun off the back of a truck Mira Mar 2013 #25

I'm in that 91% Bay Boy Mar 2013 #79

Mr Bay Boy - we use what we have to make our points Mira Mar 2013 #12

I think you meant Bay Boy Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #13

I did. HONESTLY, no need to lie. My Freud must have been showing. DANG Mira Mar 2013 #15

just edit your post... all is fine ... no biggie Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #18

But the Till story doesn't fit Bay Boy Mar 2013 #23

The Till story fits PERFECTLY with the point being made... supernova Mar 2013 #195

I always wanted to be thought of Bay Boy Mar 2013 #26

Sorry. Sincerely. n/t Mira Mar 2013 #27

I wasn't offended Bay Boy Mar 2013 #86

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #171

What in the Hell does that mean? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #177

Your post is what's disgusting. Tab Mar 2013 #186

As always Michael Moore is saying what our elected officials should be saying libtodeath Mar 2013 #5

functionality fail Crepuscular Mar 2013 #35

Bull. daybranch Mar 2013 #66

Don't know much about hunting, do you? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #100

But there are other alternatives too. If assault rifles were banned, true hunter will continue doing Hoyt Mar 2013 #112

Yes, that's true Crepuscular Mar 2013 #115

Those "Scary Looks" Are Why People Like You Are Buying Assault Rifles. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #118

Exactly. In my opinion, that is reason enough to restrict those attracted to them from owning them. Hoyt Mar 2013 #119

Uh-huh Crepuscular Mar 2013 #125

It's "fun" to do a lot of things, but if detrimental to society, it might be best to restrict it. Hoyt Mar 2013 #127

Hate to burst your bubble, premium Mar 2013 #128

So -- do gun cultists have to do things that are legal, but detrimental to society? Hoyt Mar 2013 #130

Pushing the envelope? premium Mar 2013 #132

No, I mean like people steeped in guns who covet/need the most lethal weapons for their lovefests. Hoyt Mar 2013 #133

But if they're not doing anything illegal with them. premium Mar 2013 #135

Majority of toters and gun accumulators are immature, right wingers & bigots - not good combination. Hoyt Mar 2013 #139

How do you know this? premium Mar 2013 #141

When one says "majority" -- it does not mean "everyone." Hoyt Mar 2013 #142

While I will agree that most "gun accumulators" are "right wingers" ... spin Mar 2013 #189

Same old song. Don't do anything for another decade to make you guys happy. Hoyt Mar 2013 #193

We get nowhere because you guys insist that we have to ban certain guns. ... spin Mar 2013 #196

You know as you write that marions ghost Mar 2013 #210

Gun owners support improvements to our laws that would work. ... spin Mar 2013 #215

See, no constructive ideas, ya got nuthin marions ghost Mar 2013 #220

So you feel that universal background checks, coupled with better screening for the sale of .... spin Mar 2013 #221

Too little too late marions ghost Mar 2013 #223

I actually agree with some of your ideas. ... spin Mar 2013 #224

here's another one posted by SoCalDem marions ghost Mar 2013 #225

I would have no problem with requiring a gun owner to have liability insurance ... spin Mar 2013 #227

And who wants to live in Florida? marions ghost Mar 2013 #234

I actually have no desire to live in another state. ... spin Mar 2013 #238

OK so FL is in the top fifth marions ghost Mar 2013 #245

I so like how you said that. Mira Mar 2013 #246

Yes that is step one marions ghost Mar 2013 #247

Why do you suggest that gun owners control you? ... spin Mar 2013 #256

I know that shooting is a sport. marions ghost Mar 2013 #257

I support the current gun laws in the state of Florida. ... spin Mar 2013 #258

I realize that you marions ghost Mar 2013 #261

A catastrophe of Biblical proportions is possible. ... spin Mar 2013 #262

While I don't own an assault style rifle I realize they have significant advantages ... spin Mar 2013 #184

You are exactly (well sort of) right. I think ban should cover all semi-autos, including handguns. Hoyt Mar 2013 #120

because Crepuscular Mar 2013 #124

Look, a 10% improvement is significant. Hoyt Mar 2013 #126

Cost/benefit Crepuscular Mar 2013 #134

So what dollar value do you put on kids shot at Sandy Hook and their families? Hoyt Mar 2013 #140

What cost do you place on the hundreds of kids who drown in swimming pools every year? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #143

Enjoy your guns and stay. Hoyt Mar 2013 #145

Sometimes there are no words. GoneOffShore Mar 2013 #202

Identifying the problem Crepuscular Mar 2013 #209

So maybe all those should be banned too. ArcticFox Mar 2013 #200

It will slow gun proliferation because gun culture doesn't get all excited about revolvers, etc. Hoyt Mar 2013 #203

Assault rifles/weapons were designed from the ground up to be maximally effective at killing humans. ArcticFox Mar 2013 #199

The AR family and .223 calibre bullets are designed from the ground up for killing ArcticFox Mar 2013 #198

You know, of course, the .30-06 is a hunting round.... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #239

The military 5.56mm round was derived from the civilian .222 Remington hack89 Mar 2013 #250

you do know Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #180

Useless information, that changes nothing in the debate Hoyt Mar 2013 #201

But, but... Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2013 #229

:) Hoyt Mar 2013 #230

are these hunting rifles? Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #181

A Pulitzer Prize to the journalist who can do an expose series w/these photos Divernan Mar 2013 #8

This is proof that MM only cares about his own agenda Bay Boy Mar 2013 #9

How much more devastated - in your opinion - Mira Mar 2013 #14

Then why don't we hear this from the families themselves? n/t Bay Boy Mar 2013 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Paladin Mar 2013 #28

All we need to do is listen. They are talking plenty. n/t Mira Mar 2013 #29

I understand that they are talking... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #76

Yes. Robb Mar 2013 #78

Embarrassing typo there Bay Boy Mar 2013 #136

One of them did describe in graphic detail nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #109

If they ever do release the crime scene photos Bay Boy Mar 2013 #137

Are You A Mind Reader? n/t HangOnKids Mar 2013 #144

Yes n/t Bay Boy Mar 2013 #146

What Am I Thinking About You? n/t HangOnKids Mar 2013 #154

I'm positive that I know what you are thinking of me. Bay Boy Mar 2013 #156

A Smattering Of DU Opinions Does Not Everyone Make HangOnKids Mar 2013 #158

Huh? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #159

It's ok to admit you misread my comment... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #174

Still nothing? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #216

Go Pound Sand HangOnKids Mar 2013 #219

And I will applaud them nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #164

I'm not sure what this means: Bay Boy Mar 2013 #166

The 5.56 sucks to hunt deer nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #167

I agree... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #169

Not true Crepuscular Mar 2013 #183

You have missed their testimony before the State and Federal houses nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #97

Oh, please. Robb Mar 2013 #20

The PICTURES aren't why they are devastated and you need to stop playing IdaBriggs Mar 2013 #22

I don't think he's playing. laundry_queen Mar 2013 #235

Aaaaand right on cue... MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #24

Gun cuddlers, at least in arguments, tend to lead with their chins. Robb Mar 2013 #30

His agenda is to save lives The Blue Flower Mar 2013 #64

Yes, because this strategy works so well for the anti-abortionists. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #17

"Gun safety advocates are just like anti-abortionists and Dick Cheney!!111" Robb Mar 2013 #31

I wouldn't say that, but you're free to do so. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #37

Of course you wouldn't, you might get a post hidden. Robb Mar 2013 #39

First I would have to think it to write it, which I didn't. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #42

So you're going with "I know you are but what am I." Robb Mar 2013 #52

I'm really impressed with your ability to imagine things I wrote or expressed. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #105

That's a good point RZM Mar 2013 #33

Your analogy is an epic fail HangOnKids Mar 2013 #108

Please do explain why you think the analogy failed. aikoaiko Mar 2013 #114

No, I have nothing to say to you HangOnKids Mar 2013 #117

What a lame ass move RZM Mar 2013 #131

I'm sorry to inform you there IS such a thing as... 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #191

Sorry to inform you that bloody pictures have been Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #241

There are states now considering and/or passing legislation that would allow teachers and spicegal Mar 2013 #21

Hmmm Crepuscular Mar 2013 #32

Absent a gun, how many children do you suppose he might've killed? Robb Mar 2013 #34

An equal number? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #36

Since Kehoe, the purchase and possession of dynamite has become strictly regulated. Robb Mar 2013 #38

fuel oil and fertilizer Crepuscular Mar 2013 #40

You forgot WTC '93 and 9/11. Robb Mar 2013 #50

Continue? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #55

How many children were killed by bombs last week in the US? Robb Mar 2013 #56

How many killed by "Assault Weapons" Indydem Mar 2013 #68

Zero Crepuscular Mar 2013 #72

More kids are shot by guns every week than died at OKC. Robb Mar 2013 #73

Nope Crepuscular Mar 2013 #80

Anything but guns. Got it. Robb Mar 2013 #82

Nineteen Crepuscular Mar 2013 #85

Wow, that's about 150X less than the number of children killed by guns. DanTex Mar 2013 #93

It's about equivilent Crepuscular Mar 2013 #98

LOL. As long "equivilent" doesn't mean "equal". DanTex Mar 2013 #103

Really? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #116

No, it's more like how laundry_queen Mar 2013 #236

Absent a gun? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #84

Concern over children being mutilated by an assault rifle thucythucy Mar 2013 #41

Really? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #43

I would only be in favor of publishing the photos thucythucy Mar 2013 #87

How many Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #44

I'm also opposed to drunk drivers. thucythucy Mar 2013 #81

What is an assult rifle? n/t HangOnKids Mar 2013 #110

An assault rifle is whatever the NY Times says it is, on any given day. Paladin Mar 2013 #122

Once again, Mr Moore leaves the Delicate Flowers scrambling for excuses. 99Forever Mar 2013 #45

Who are the 'delicate flowers' you speak of? Bay Boy Mar 2013 #168

Run along ... 99Forever Mar 2013 #170

Please explain yourself... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #175

I want those pictures to be presented to Mr. lapierre the next time he testifies in Congress kimbutgar Mar 2013 #46

Wheat paste them to his door. mwrguy Mar 2013 #178

Yes PennyK Mar 2013 #47

You are right, guns are things and don't have rights... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #240

Message auto-removed Prog_gun_owner Mar 2013 #48

I think the mental illness was the mother's obsession with assault weapons mountain grammy Mar 2013 #54

Bull shit. 99Forever Mar 2013 #57

wielded Crepuscular Mar 2013 #59

Without your "The Precious"... 99Forever Mar 2013 #60

Argumenet Fail Crepuscular Mar 2013 #63

What's an "Argumenet"???????? 99Forever Mar 2013 #65

Really? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #67

Your logic would suggest disbanding OSHA Robb Mar 2013 #69

My logic? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #74

Again with the NRA talking points... DanTex Mar 2013 #91

Again with the gun grabber shifting of goal posts Crepuscular Mar 2013 #94

LOL. You know, when you put something in quotes, it usually means you're actually quoting something. DanTex Mar 2013 #96

Ad hominem Crepuscular Mar 2013 #104

Note to self: don't use subtety when arguing with gun nuts. DanTex Mar 2013 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author DanTex Mar 2013 #106

This post was alerted on! The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand! ohiosmith Mar 2013 #121

I think all of his posts are being alerted on in this thread Capt. Obvious Mar 2013 #151

And your logic meanit Mar 2013 #194

Guns are guns Crepuscular Mar 2013 #232

You want to meanit Mar 2013 #264

One sign of the true "gun enthusiast" thucythucy Mar 2013 #95

refuted? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #102

You use the Bath school massacre as an example thucythucy Mar 2013 #147

analogy fail Crepuscular Mar 2013 #152

Is it more fun trolling left-wing boards than right-wing ones? Robb Mar 2013 #153

Wouldn't know, you tell me? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #172

So you're saying the virtual banning of dynamite thucythucy Mar 2013 #217

Did I say that? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #231

I think it's pretty certain that the banning of dynamite thucythucy Mar 2013 #233

Doubtful Crepuscular Mar 2013 #237

I think you scored debate points in regards to... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #182

I think mental health, specifically thucythucy Mar 2013 #218

The gun control initiative that if it had been in effect at the time Bay Boy Mar 2013 #222

A ban on civilian ownership thucythucy Mar 2013 #226

I just can't imagine that Bay Boy Mar 2013 #228

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #88

I think you're in the wrong place. The NRA trolls hang out in the gungeon, not in GD. DanTex Mar 2013 #92

Yep, it's mental illness that's the problem. What say you, gun lobby? Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #113

I applaud Michael Moore for writing this. I've thought that the lack of pictures sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #51

I think it would strengthen the NRA madville Mar 2013 #53

A fool and his money. Robb Mar 2013 #58

It's not my plan madville Mar 2013 #61

WOW, What a letter! LittleGirl Mar 2013 #70

Can you live with "MANY Humans are Good & Decent?" marions ghost Mar 2013 #212

I said as much shortly after the shooting, as macabre as it is Demonaut Mar 2013 #75

Come to DETROIT and explain all of that, Michael. You're so out of touch... Romulox Mar 2013 #77

My first thought about this ... Autumn Colors Mar 2013 #83

Such an excellent letter to Americans. northoftheborder Mar 2013 #90

Won't happen nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #99

Then we have to get around the editors mwrguy Mar 2013 #129

I know...I just pointed a reality nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #165

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #101

Formal and informal groups such as "Moms against guns" know something needs to be done. Hoyt Mar 2013 #111

So his mother can't release the photos? michigandem58 Mar 2013 #123

You Want Michael Moore's Mother To Release Photos? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #138

Hardly material for a joke. n/t michigandem58 Mar 2013 #150

If they are crime scene photos thucythucy Mar 2013 #148

Thanks michigandem58 Mar 2013 #149

Thank you. alfredo Mar 2013 #155

Please read, stop the killing Milliesmom Mar 2013 #157

Here's a letter from our county sheriff stating that he won't enforce, WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #160

How long can he really remain sheriff if he violates a federal law? Blue Idaho Mar 2013 #161

A Sheriff doesn't have to enforce Federal Law Homerj1 Mar 2013 #176

Now that I did not know... Blue Idaho Mar 2013 #190

You're welcome Homerj1 Mar 2013 #192

Doesn't that make him guilty of obstructing justice? mwrguy Mar 2013 #179

No, it doesn't. premium Mar 2013 #185

He states in the letter that he won't permit the Feds to enforce the law. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #187

Then he could be arrested for obstruction. premium Mar 2013 #188

Not just obstruction of justice, FEDERAL obstruction of justice, potential 5 year prison term. stevenleser Mar 2013 #253

That's right. premium Mar 2013 #255

Michael Moore is loved by most Democrats Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #162

This is the country in which we raise millions to cure cancer, JDPriestly Mar 2013 #163

Kick because everyone should read this. stopwastingmymoney Mar 2013 #173

We live in an image culture... marions ghost Mar 2013 #214

Which is why this effort would fail... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #243

Ridiculous idea marions ghost Mar 2013 #244

The world is utterly filled with images... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #248

We're not numb to certain images though marions ghost Mar 2013 #251

The "hoax" matter: this & other conspiracy junk... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #252

the delegitimizing of MSM... marions ghost Mar 2013 #254

I don't think there is any chance these records are... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #259

"Harden a hateful culture war"?? marions ghost Mar 2013 #260

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Truly Horrific Imagery..... Oakenshield Mar 2013 #197

Gun Enthusiasts And The NRA Should All Be Shunned From Society As Unfit Citizens cantbeserious Mar 2013 #204

I'm glad you're not serious. LAGC Mar 2013 #205

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Gun Grabbers And The VPC Should All Be Shunned From Society As Unfit Citizens Peter cotton Mar 2013 #206

She is right erwinmary Mar 2013 #208

I agree with you ~ erwinmary In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #213

I do not have to look Mr. Moore; I already know, but you are right it would be good for the lonestarnot Mar 2013 #211

kr dogknob Mar 2013 #242

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