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phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
37. Bullshit. There are plenty of people offended by flag burning who are NOT clutching pearls.
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 01:54 AM
Feb 2012

I personally could give less of a damn about it. But I'd say a vast majority of average working class people across the entire ideological spectrum are turned off by it. If you don't get that, then you don't really understand much about this society at all. It doesn't matter how justified it is. OWS is trying to sell a message and flag burning is a sure fire way to get the door slammed right in its face by a lot of otherwise good citizens who happen to harbor these odd religious-esque fetishes for things like the flag.

How about, how about, how about... how about who gives a fuck? All your "how abouts" aren't ever going to reach the average citizen that gets offended by these sorts of things. So get over your "how abouts". They are irrelevant and fruitless arguments. This is politics. This is about selling good ideology. These idiots setting flags on fire are doing nothing but turning people off. Its nothing more than a giant fucking present laid at the right wing's doorstep. Its giving them easy fuel to discredit the movement. And once the movement is discredited and people stop listening to the message, then all the "how abouts" in the world will get us absolutely nowhere.

The flag burners are nothing more than immature, short sighted, mental midgets who should be shunned. Not because its the American flag or any of that kind of pseudo-religious nonsense in the name of superficial patriotism, but simply because the realities of our society dictates that such actions do real damage to the goal of selling people on a good message. Thats the real sin here. They'd do more good for the real OWS message had they set themselves on fire.

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freedom of speech and action is soooooo unamerican nt msongs Jan 2012 #1
I think the point is that you are also free to paint yourself purple and run around renie408 Jan 2012 #3
You missed the OP's point completely bluestateguy Jan 2012 #11
You can tattoo a penis on your forehead too jberryhill Jan 2012 #16
Wooosh...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #23
Um, were any of the people here Union Scribe Jan 2012 #2
Lol, yes, it's hilarious. nt EFerrari Jan 2012 #6
Why does it have to be all or nothing? renie408 Jan 2012 #7
The reason is the reaction from OWS... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #22
Baloney. I don't see supporters turning. EFerrari Feb 2012 #39
damn, again I must give you an A++ 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #13
THANK YOU!! Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #15
There is a HUGE difference between those not motivated enough to go to political boards... joeglow3 Jan 2012 #31
Which would make burning the flag a powerful tool to use AGAINST OWS justiceischeap Jan 2012 #4
It is not possible for Oakland police to exercise restraint? Generic Brad Jan 2012 #34
My concern with the OPD isn't whether or not they used restraint but justiceischeap Feb 2012 #47
watching a flag being burned bothers me, DesertFlower Jan 2012 #5
Thank you very much for your sincere and deeply felt concern. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #8
Actually - I am deeply moved. emilyg Jan 2012 #14
I have no doubt of that. LeftyMom Jan 2012 #19
Perhaps you should be emilyg Jan 2012 #30
Fuck yeah. joeglow3 Jan 2012 #32
I too would like to thank the OP for his concern. pa28 Feb 2012 #35
In the words of Congresswoman Regina Bookman (D-RI) DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #9
It accomplishes nothing positive and only makes people angry at them bluestateguy Jan 2012 #10
Let it go, Wraith 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #12
I only see the flag as a piece of cloth. pennylane100 Jan 2012 #17
I kind of doubt you actually do onenote Jan 2012 #18
well it would have been just as meaningless. pennylane100 Jan 2012 #21
It's funny how those who proclaim 'freedom of speech'... randome Jan 2012 #20
Oh my... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #24
Whooooosh! tabasco Jan 2012 #26
and it happens nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #27
Yes, I am correct. tabasco Jan 2012 #28
But I notice you do not speak about cops nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #29
Bullshit. There are plenty of people offended by flag burning who are NOT clutching pearls. phleshdef Feb 2012 #37
I guess we should also shun the USSC nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #38
Klan rallies are also protected speech. Westboro funeral protesting is protected speech. phleshdef Feb 2012 #48
Yes, that this outrage nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #49
I'm not disagreeing with the notion that there are double standards here. phleshdef Feb 2012 #50
And as far as that is concerned nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #51
And, again thats where you are mistaken. phleshdef Feb 2012 #53
Well it ran in local news nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #57
I support anyone's right to burn the flag deutsey Jan 2012 #25
I think less extreme tactics are hurting them too Yo_Mama Jan 2012 #33
Of course it was just a few! It did not take 400+ people - nor all the marchers - to burn 1 flag slay Feb 2012 #46
K & R rollin74 Feb 2012 #36
what's with flag fetishism/fixation, i'm genuinely puzzled... inna Feb 2012 #40
lol "provocateurs" joshcryer Feb 2012 #42
oops, did i totally misspell? it didn't look right, but... i was too lazy to bother to check inna Feb 2012 #43
Would you be opposed to burning the black flag? joshcryer Feb 2012 #41
Horrible way to stage a PR stunt Rex Feb 2012 #44
I think it's a GREAT way to protest... slay Feb 2012 #45
I imagine it is rather easier to allow public perception, branding and popularity... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #52
except alienating anyone not already on your side MNBrewer Feb 2012 #54
Yep! Plus it's just lazy. redqueen Feb 2012 #55
People freaking out about burning flags cracks me up. Jennicut Feb 2012 #56
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