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60. Not all Catholics are homophobes and not all Catholics accept child rapists
Wed Mar 13, 2013, 05:12 PM
Mar 2013

as holy men. But the Catholic Church, as an organization, is and probably always will be homophobic. And the Catholic Church has always -- always -- dealt with child rape by blaming the victims and threatening them with hell. Not all Catholic priests are child rapists, but wouldn't it be interesting to know how small a percentage of Catholic priests were actually surprised by revelations that many their brother priests have raped and continue to rape children? Wouldn't it be even more interesting to know how many of the non-raping priests were so outraged by the crimes against children and subsequent series of shameful cover-ups that they chose to speak out in righteous anger, condemning both rapist and those in authority (are you listening former-Pope Benedict?) who covered up the crimes and looked the other way when children's souls were being destroyed?

I'm just pointing out that if you can speak out against a crime, against bigotry, and you do not, you are either in agreement with it or accepting of it.

Pope Frankie, at least, comes to the throne without leaving any doubts in anyone's mind about his homophobic bigotry. I wonder whether he has at least spoken out vociferously against the rape of children by his brother priests? Maybe he'll begin issuing bulls (!!) condemning child rape and ferreting out the scumbags in the church who've been guilty of it. What are the chances of that happening?

(Sorry for the rant. After more than 20 years of education at Catholic institutions of learning -- from grammar school through Master Degree -- I'm all "catholicked out". I cannot forgive an institution that condones -- even preaches -- hatred against gays. And I remain completely astonished and thoroughly revolted by it's efforts to hide the sin of child rape committed again and again by its priests. Want more? I remain shocked and thoroughly dismayed by JPII's dismantling of liberation theology and silencing of liberation theology practitioners, and think him a despicable oaf for practically ignoring the murder of Cardinal Romero, a friend of the poor and a true liberation-theology practitioner, at the hands of Right Wing Salvadoran thugs.)

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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Initech Mar 2013 #1
Sigh... there they go again... calimary Mar 2013 #54
Yeah, no one could have predicted that one, huh? Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #2
Church is really thinking outside the box with this one. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #3
Yep, those gays are all the work of satan, the 'father of lies'. More of the same sinkingfeeling Mar 2013 #4
Not just 'the gays' AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #55
Meet the New Pope - Same as the Old Pope MineralMan Mar 2013 #5
Whew! For a moment, I thought they might elect someone worth listening to. immoderate Mar 2013 #6
stopbush was excoriated for a post and now there is LOTS more hate. eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #7
Huh? Care to disagree with the characterization geek tragedy Mar 2013 #8
Nope. Just commenting on the sudden turn of events re: ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #11
That was bashing Catholicism as a faith. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #14
Kind of a hugely obvious difference, there. redqueen Mar 2013 #16
Is Catholicism not rooted in the disapproval of homosexuality? eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #18
No. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #24
Actually, you're right. I didn't word that very well. It is the new pope's CATHOLIC ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #28
Nope. redqueen Mar 2013 #32
I didn't say they are. But Catholicism isn't known for its support of gays. And that is wrong. eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #36
Plenty of "wrong" to go around, all over the world. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #58
Yes, they are CentristLiberal Mar 2013 #68
welcome to du nt redqueen Mar 2013 #69
Do you include Joe Biden in your generalization? wercal Mar 2013 #81
Yes CentristLiberal Mar 2013 #82
Wow wercal Mar 2013 #83
Do you not disdain homophobes? CentristLiberal Mar 2013 #84
Very Clear wercal Mar 2013 #87
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #90
Hold on there hombre wercal Mar 2013 #92
I thought so. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #21
A lot depends on the parish. redqueen Mar 2013 #29
ANYONE who gives money to gay bashers Zoeisright Mar 2013 #42
I'm an atheist, so please direct your spittle-flicking accusations elsewhere. redqueen Mar 2013 #43
One of the major differences between THE Catholic Church and the Protestant JDPriestly Mar 2013 #71
Wow. I used to think it was only Republicans and Unionists who held such biases. redqueen Mar 2013 #73
As you should. And Catholicism is at the root of that gay-hating bigot pope. Right? eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #17
No, homophobia is. Please spare me the "calling out Catholic geek tragedy Mar 2013 #19
But it is his CATHOLICISM that has taught him his beliefs re: homosexuality, correct? eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #20
You can go ahead and make that analysis. I am just observing geek tragedy Mar 2013 #22
Did he or did he not learn his hatred of gays by being in the Catholic church? eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #23
I have no idea. I just know THAT he is a homophobic bigot. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #25
Why Don't You Give Him A Fucking Call And Ask n/t HangOnKids Mar 2013 #26
WTH? I'm not condoning his bigotry of gays. So what's your fucking problem? eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #31
Are you upset by the hate coming FROM the Church Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #9
Absolutely. Only pointing out how hatred of the church was criticized just ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #12
No, the only hatred is coming from those celebrating a homophobe dbackjon Mar 2013 #10
I'm not celebrating anything. I think religion is equivalent to delusion but ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #13
disgusting ghoulish throwback creep. Whisp Mar 2013 #15
You took the words (and spit) out of my mouth IndicaDogwalk Mar 2013 #50
Hello ~ IndicaDogwalk In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #89
But the pope is a homophobe. Apophis Mar 2013 #53
Are you sure you replied to the correct post? JTFrog Mar 2013 #56
Actually they did prove me wrong on one thing Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #27
He basically is a white guy from Europe. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #33
Did not know that I don't really pay attention to these things I haven't been a Catholic since I was Arcanetrance Mar 2013 #38
:-( - And here is the answer to the OP that asked why is this important. stevenleser Mar 2013 #30
They tend to put a lot more of their muscle behind persecuting gays geek tragedy Mar 2013 #34
But which potential pope candidate would fit that bill? JoePhilly Mar 2013 #37
I don't know the Cardinals that well. But who does? There are 115 of them who were voting. Besides stevenleser Mar 2013 #39
My understanding is that most of the current Cardinals are considered JoePhilly Mar 2013 #41
You could have written an OP with that same title BEFORE JoePhilly Mar 2013 #35
Yup! That's a good point. What did we expect? Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #80
You got a talking to for pointing out the truth of the new homophobic pope. Apophis Mar 2013 #40
>I'm confused.< No, you just haven't read enough history. Even the Communists that tried jtuck004 Mar 2013 #59
"God's plan".. reallly. Cha Mar 2013 #44
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. penndragon69 Mar 2013 #45
Nope. No surprise at all. Frankly, anyone who was NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #46
I AM SHOCKED SHOCKED to find that gambling is going on here. iandhr Mar 2013 #47
And what kind of hating asshole are you? cartach Mar 2013 #48
'Gays are the work of the devil' isn't hateful? sangsaran Mar 2013 #57
Calling marriage equality the work of the Devil seems pretty hateful to me. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #65
So he's got at least one thing in common with you. Richardo Mar 2013 #49
Excuse me? Back up your accusation that I hate gays or STFU after apologizing. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #63
I said ONE thing. Richardo Mar 2013 #70
Oh, so you're peeved that people are dissing the shiny new fellow in the hat? nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Richardo Mar 2013 #95
and woman hater HockeyMom Mar 2013 #51
K&R + LOL at the thread title MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #52
Not all Catholics are homophobes and not all Catholics accept child rapists RVN VET Mar 2013 #60
I feel for you jbeing Mar 2013 #77
Oh, ye olde RCC. Always so full of love. valerief Mar 2013 #61
Didn't you know, you're a bigot if you call the new guy in the funny hat out on his bigotry. n/t backscatter712 Mar 2013 #62
SSDP. City Lights Mar 2013 #64
Meanwhile.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #66
But he said those things before he was ordained Pope LiberalLovinLug Mar 2013 #67
The new Pope's gonna have to work hard to earn my respect. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #72
"Father of lies"? Project much, Jorge? nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #75
You're surprised? Cleita Mar 2013 #76
The air is thick with sarcasm, nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #78
In the United States of America, your Eminence, ALL religions are created equal, rocktivity Mar 2013 #79
Yeah, I am like totally shocked. Who would have thought. idwiyo Mar 2013 #85
+1 x a zillion re your post title. forestpath Mar 2013 #86
Whaaa? progressoid Mar 2013 #88
rofl. Raffi Ella Mar 2013 #91
kick napkinz Mar 2013 #93
kick. HuckleB Mar 2013 #94
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