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In reply to the discussion: "Liberal believers are going to be the people who ultimately bring change to their own religions." [View all]Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I recall that right after the inauguration you had what I read as a condescending and snide OP aimed at those who might be a bit weary of hearing religious rhetoric during civil ceremonies.
Shitting on your friends and allies, I know I certainly felt shit on by that OP of yours, self importantly telling me things I have known since the sixties. You may not have intended for me to feel that way, I"m giving you the benefit of the doubt here but that's certainly the way I felt.
Really Will, we get it and got it, it's a tradition and it won't change until the US is well over half non-religious. Of course, given the way many religions have been acting lately it might not take as long to get there as we might imagine.
http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
More than one-quarter of American adults (28%) have left the faith in which they were raised in favor of another religion - or no religion at all. If change in affiliation from one type of Protestantism to another is included, 44% of adults have either switched religious affiliation, moved from being unaffiliated with any religion to being affiliated with a particular faith, or dropped any connection to a specific religious tradition altogether.
The survey finds that the number of people who say they are unaffiliated with any particular faith today (16.1%) is more than double the number who say they were not affiliated with any particular religion as children. Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
More than one-quarter of American adults (28%) have left the faith in which they were raised in favor of another religion - or no religion at all. If change in affiliation from one type of Protestantism to another is included, 44% of adults have either switched rot currently affiliated with any particular religion.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/youth-turned-off-by-religion-and-politics-turn-away-from-church-71688/
Political science Professors David Campbell (University of Notre Dame) and Robert Putnam (Harvard University) published their findings, "God and Caesar in America: Why Mixing Religion and Politics Is Bad for Both," in the March/April edition of Foreign Affairs. Campbell and Putnam also wrote American Grace: How Religion Divides and Unites Us (2010), which was recently released in paperback. For that book, they have been surveying the same group of people from 2006 to 2011. The same data was used for the Foreign Affairs article.
One of the most surprising findings from the data they collected, Campbell said in a March 13 interview with The Christian Post, was that people are driven away or toward religious involvement because of their political leanings. In particular, those who are politically conservative, or Republican, are more likely to become churchgoers and those that are politically liberal, or Democratic, are more likely to turn away from religion.
This is the opposite of previous understandings of the interaction of religion and politics. Social scientists believed that people first got involved in a particular religion, which then influenced their politics in some way. Increasingly, more studies like Campbell and Putnam's are finding, though, that politics is more likely to determine religion than religion determine politics.
Campbell likes to use the image of a "brand" from marketing. The Republican brand has been increasingly associated with religion and social conservatism due to the influence of the Christian Right, a social movement which has been a part of the Republican coalition since the 1980s. Moderates and Democrats are uncomfortable with that brand and seek to not be identified with it.