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175. context matters.

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:25 PM

Mar 2013

discrimination on the basis of height, for instance, is perfectly reasonable when talking about roller coasters (you must be "this tall" to ride!) and other safety considerations, but perfectly rotten in the context of many employment situations.

so i don't have a problem with the idea that we can say sexism should be confined to the selection of one's life partner. i don't see any benefit from insisting that selection of life partner is exempted from the term, freeing us up to say we should eliminate sexism entirely. six of one, half dozen of the other.

and in any event, the point of the term "benevolent sexism" was to carve out a subset within the broader set of actions and attitudes which are "sexism". i'm not sure much changes is they had used a term like "well-intentioned discrimination on the basis of sex" or "disproportionately favorable treatment of women".

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Sexist men prefer bigger boobs: study [View all] The Straight Story Mar 2013 OP

you can find a study to prove anything you want proven leftyohiolib Mar 2013 #1

Do you have a study for that? The Straight Story Mar 2013 #2

Trust me. dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #3

I'm going to have to do some more research on this. Ganja Ninja Mar 2013 #4

Wow. Just wow. Whoever could have predicted that? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #5

Meh. Who gives a crap. HappyMe Mar 2013 #6

Must be why I prefer smaller 'boobs' RC Mar 2013 #7

I actually like all sizes when it comes to boobs. What does that make me? yellowcanine Mar 2013 #11

Will Rogers Tabasco_Dave Mar 2013 #206

You should try giving the woman attached to the breasts a moment of your time. nt NCTraveler Mar 2013 #14

The subject was "Breasts" RC Mar 2013 #18

I am fine with posting assumptions based on what I read. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #22

Depends on the size of the woman. RC Mar 2013 #28

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Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #108

What's normal???? CherokeeDem Mar 2013 #17

Unfortunately, that would be a simple.... daleanime Mar 2013 #21

Yeah... CherokeeDem Mar 2013 #34

Your choice to share your thoughts on large breasts says more about you redqueen Mar 2013 #51

Oh, you're quite welcome. RC Mar 2013 #69

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Mother of God... nolabear Mar 2013 #86

Oh, I think you should say it. I think every large-breasted woman redqueen Mar 2013 #99

I saw that ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #8

Small to medium here... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #9

So what does it mean if you are in the Sir Mix-A-Lot camp? MattBaggins Mar 2013 #10

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Do you have a cold? MattBaggins Mar 2013 #213

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Thread is useless without pictures. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #12

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It would be sexist not to do followup studies with women regarding male genitalia size. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #13

Naw ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #157

That Would be a Long, Hard, Study to Do Macoy51 Mar 2013 #159

LOL ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #173

. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15

Scootch Tien1985 Mar 2013 #90

Well . . . geek tragedy Mar 2013 #91

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WTF is benevolent sexism? hootinholler Mar 2013 #16

benevolent sexism would be holding the door open, pulling out a chair, ect... seabeyond Mar 2013 #19

Holding a door open for a woman is now sexist? Upton Mar 2013 #23

i hold the door open for others, others hold the door for me, and yes, lots of friendly exchange seabeyond Mar 2013 #26

Uh... Upton Mar 2013 #30

uh... hoot asked what benevolent seixsm is. i gave him example and difinition. as i said, seabeyond Mar 2013 #32

If you hold a door open for a woman because she is a woman and for no other reason, ronnie624 Mar 2013 #55

Maybe the guy should hold the door shut and see if she can open it? Orrex Mar 2013 #88

Ha Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #113

Lol! n/t RiffRandell Mar 2013 #183

Huh. I never would've interpreted it that way. Marr Mar 2013 #92

Wow, what a friendly welcome! EOTE Mar 2013 #102

If you hold the door open for everyone, no Major Nikon Mar 2013 #33

Everyone I see polly7 Mar 2013 #35

Seems that way. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #125

Sorry Major.. Upton Mar 2013 #37

I'm not being critical Major Nikon Mar 2013 #45

Why not use the standard treestar Mar 2013 #74

I hold doors open for women, but I don't consider it sexist CreekDog Mar 2013 #190

I've helped women change tires before, but never a man.. snooper2 Mar 2013 #39

if you helped a woman who seemed to have things well in hand, or passed by a man who didn't, unblock Mar 2013 #43

What you should have done... Major Nikon Mar 2013 #54

Heh. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #116

... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #230

Good Question RobinA Mar 2013 #111

Yes MattBaggins Mar 2013 #127

I let a woman change a flat for me because I didn't want her to think I was sexist CreekDog Mar 2013 #191

I think that too many times HappyMe Mar 2013 #49

Common courtesy -- exactly. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #83

And there in lies the crux of benevolent sexism MattBaggins Mar 2013 #132

very well said- it's an underlying reason why we STILL have "bigger fish to fry" and earn less. bettyellen Mar 2013 #143

People who use snark to dismiss this concept are the same people MattBaggins Mar 2013 #145

Anecdotally, the earn less meme grows stale galileoreloaded Mar 2013 #148

not "stale" when the average is like 70-75%, and it's much worse at some bettyellen Mar 2013 #153

Er, poor reframe. galileoreloaded Mar 2013 #160

when the average difference is significant to the tune of 30%, your anecdote is meaningless. bettyellen Mar 2013 #164

I do give a shit, but I have never witnessed nor met anyone with that experience galileoreloaded Mar 2013 #184

you know everyone woman you know's salaries and what the men who have the same job make? bettyellen Mar 2013 #188

About that heavy bag thing-- tblue37 Oct 2013 #241

+100 nt lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #67

oh, you're here CreekDog Mar 2013 #192

I am female and I hold the door open for both sexes. smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #232

any time you treat women differently is "sexist" in the denotational sense. unblock Mar 2013 #40

I see, so I'm sexist for only dating with women. EOTE Mar 2013 #104

yes, that is sexist. the question is, what are the ramifications of that kind of sexism. unblock Mar 2013 #115

So, calling every single heterosexual male a sexist is a great way to advance the dialog. EOTE Mar 2013 #117

wow you have a real hang-up about word usage. feel free to come up with a better term. unblock Mar 2013 #118

And accusing a great majority of the population of being sexist is a great way to advance. EOTE Mar 2013 #122

by using the word "accusing" you're insisting that all uses of the term "sexism" are negative. unblock Mar 2013 #126

That's the way that 99% of the population thinks. EOTE Mar 2013 #131

this is an academic study and academic study very often uses terminology different from the public unblock Mar 2013 #135

Although I have issues with the study, this is not one of them. EOTE Mar 2013 #138

sexism is discimination on the basis of sex. look it up. unblock Mar 2013 #158

Sexual attraction and sex is general is NOT discrimination. EOTE Mar 2013 #162

apparently you or i have the same disagreement regarding the word "discrimination" unblock Mar 2013 #165

You can continue to not believe the currently accepted definitions of these terms... EOTE Mar 2013 #172

context matters. unblock Mar 2013 #175

It's not sexism BainsBane Mar 2013 #199

Your personal attractions are not sexist gollygee Mar 2013 #142

Some on this thread HAVE suggested that being heterosexual is sexist. EOTE Mar 2013 #151

I agree with you on that. n/t gollygee Mar 2013 #197

If you do it longer or more often than you would for me, then yes. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #65

I hold the door for just about everyone and most people hold it for me CreekDog Mar 2013 #193

I'm an observer of human nature. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #200

ah, calling me the troll and a stalker in the same post (and self-loathing...) CreekDog Mar 2013 #202

In fairness... lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #203

. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #216

Same. When I pull out a chair for a woman or hold the door they seem pleased. LittleBlue Mar 2013 #134

I have never heard of this... one_voice Mar 2013 #71

Yep! Sissyk Mar 2013 #93

no. one does not always see sexism. but, we can understand the behavior and see how it can be seabeyond Mar 2013 #196

Thanks! hootinholler Mar 2013 #76

ya. i saw that i had the nt, even though i had the definition. geeeez, did you start something. seabeyond Mar 2013 #195

Just doing my part hootinholler Mar 2013 #208

When not as gentleman Blue4Texas Mar 2013 #204

Benevolent sexism is actually a fascinating concept. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #58

i think it is interesting also. and the reaction is a knee jerk snark without much thinking going seabeyond Mar 2013 #60

"gentlemanly thing to do" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #66

that would be the point lumber. be it "gentlemen" or "lady". it is behaviors taught seabeyond Mar 2013 #68

if you hold a door but oppose equal pay legislation, you're no gentleman CreekDog Mar 2013 #194

Knee jerk snark? EOTE Mar 2013 #106

Yes, lots of "White Knights" run to the defense of women here on DU. Bonobo Mar 2013 #220

I never met a pair of boobs I didn't like Taverner Mar 2013 #20

Really? RandiFan1290 Mar 2013 #29

The goggles do nothing! sir pball Mar 2013 #105

Yikes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #128

What about this pair jberryhill Mar 2013 #103

My hypothesis is that that most sexist men have the most questions about their sexuality Taverner Mar 2013 #24

Sexists like big boobs. But that doesn't mean men who like 'em Bicoastal Mar 2013 #44

I'm attracted to larger breasts, yes, but I'm not sexist. Apophis Mar 2013 #61

We have too much time on our hands The2ndWheel Mar 2013 #25

I'm not sexist and I prefer bigger... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #27

there's an obvious problem with this study... unblock Mar 2013 #31

This. redqueen Mar 2013 #56

Wow! Sissyk Mar 2013 #75

Measuring objectification was part of the point of the study. See my link downthread stevenleser Mar 2013 #79

This OP was not made to learn anything new about human sexuality. Whisp Mar 2013 #82

So much this. nt sufrommich Mar 2013 #84

Possibly. That is very unfortunate if true. My instinct was to track down the source and stevenleser Mar 2013 #85

I suspect the OP was posted to solicit discussion. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #96

because the key issue of our day BainsBane Mar 2013 #181

Whatever. It morphed into a good discussion about benevolent sexism. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #182

Yes. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #144

Ha ha and water is wet marions ghost Mar 2013 #36

Guess I'm not Sexist then, here's the owner of my favorite pair of breasts. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #38

I just want to know Dpm12 Mar 2013 #41

seriously? that is how you interpreted? or did you not read? seabeyond Mar 2013 #47

The study is about a body type preference marions ghost Mar 2013 #53

Man, it's getting so you can't even sexualize people you SLEEP with. Bicoastal Mar 2013 #42

How is sexual attraction sexist? Apophis Mar 2013 #46

If you open a door for a woman because she's a woman, that's sexist The2ndWheel Mar 2013 #140

What does it mean if you don't care about breast size, but have a fetish for auxiliary nipples? Ian David Mar 2013 #48

Empty babble. bemildred Mar 2013 #50

How about just stop telling us what we're supposed to look like? BainsBane Mar 2013 #52

You mean you're not dying to hear geek tragedy Mar 2013 #150

I'm unreasonable that way BainsBane Mar 2013 #179

Then my emancipated husband is an anomaly. He prefers bigger, um, breasts BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #57

+1 Sissyk Mar 2013 #77

I take it you agree? BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #154

Yes, I do. Sissyk Mar 2013 #168

This is just like how women have to walk 'that gauntlet'... Whisp Mar 2013 #59

really. lets start a thread on if we like small, medium or big size penis. tilt left? tilt right? seabeyond Mar 2013 #62

misandry BainsBane Mar 2013 #64

what if our request of adding sexism and mysogyny to the TOS Whisp Mar 2013 #70

"No sexism or misogyny" is analagous to "No fruit or apples" lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #73

I think there's a distinction- sexism can be without intended malice, misogyny not so much. bettyellen Mar 2013 #147

I fully agree that "the hatred or mistrust of (women/men)" should be prohibited. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #163

Agree, but I see such a wide spectrum of attitudes and behaviors here... we could spend all day bettyellen Mar 2013 #167

You too. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #169

Yup, gotta a load of work to get to now. No TGIF for us I guess. bettyellen Mar 2013 #170

Pretty clearly "respecting women" is not part of the TOS and never will be. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #152

I'm in! Sissyk Mar 2013 #98

I don't think this thread is about a womans' worth relative to breast size. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #100

Go right ahead LittleBlue Mar 2013 #123

to be fair then, men would have to wear a penis bra Whisp Mar 2013 #137

I think pants do fine for us LittleBlue Mar 2013 #139

Penis bra? How unmanly. It is properly called a codpiece, and here is an example. kwassa Mar 2013 #201

If you'd like to do that, there is plenty of material on the net-here's a study to get you started: MADem Mar 2013 #189

+1 BainsBane Mar 2013 #63

I'm sick of this too... PasadenaTrudy Mar 2013 #129

Note to all, this comes from a peer reviewed study. Here is the link stevenleser Mar 2013 #72

And here is an easy way to see and search all of the articles from this publication stevenleser Mar 2013 #81

Sexist men prefer bigger boobs on 3-D models Coyotl Mar 2013 #80

Because then you cannot isolate the criteria you are testing for tkmorris Mar 2013 #114

It's called a control. They are isolating one specific trait. Evoman Mar 2013 #174

So they postulate that this is valid in the real world instead of desiging a real world test. Coyotl Mar 2013 #215

I'm sorry but... 99Forever Mar 2013 #87

And what about if they'd asked the men their favorite soda, instead? Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #89

+1. nt bemildred Mar 2013 #95

I guess that means I'm not sexist (which I already knew), because I like B or A cups. CosmicDustBunny Mar 2013 #94

Your belief is true. Smaller breasted women can nurse perfectly well. We adapt. polly7 Mar 2013 #110

Not at all TMI. My wife hit the Dolly Parton proportions too. I kept joking, "Can I get you preggo?" CosmicDustBunny Mar 2013 #112

They really needed a study for this? Initech Mar 2013 #97

It's just ordinary narcissism, cuz sexist men are bigger boobs struggle4progress Mar 2013 #101

Here's the pic of the 3D women from the Daily Mail edbermac Mar 2013 #107

I dont think the actual study used anyone's names. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #146

OK, now I see the flaw in the study, none of those models are attractive... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #166

I'm perfectly happy with the small boobs I have tularetom Mar 2013 #109

My guess is that more sexist men also tend toward having larger boobs on themselves too. Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #119

I am a man who loves big boobs fitman Mar 2013 #120

I like big boobs but LittleBlue Mar 2013 #121

Hmmm Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #124

Sure, do a study on the boob men ... what about the Sir Mix-A-Lots among us? Bok_Tukalo Mar 2013 #130

All the subjects in this study are white, heterosexual men from London, hughee99 Mar 2013 #133

The British Male? Bok_Tukalo Mar 2013 #136

Please expand upon this interesting statement flamingdem Mar 2013 #141

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If the science is good in this study, it makes for interesting information. dawg Mar 2013 #149

big boobs are not attractive on men arely staircase Mar 2013 #155

Years ago I heard this joke, and it is true to,, benld74 Mar 2013 #156

That gave me a chuckle. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #233

Er Rex Mar 2013 #161

Is there any data on what babies prefer? Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #171

What about Vulvas? What does it say about a guy who likes gigantic vulvas? Evoman Mar 2013 #176

If you like big volvos that suck gas you hate the earth (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2013 #177

What? They pollute the Earth? Is there no justice in the universe. Evoman Mar 2013 #180

But! But, they keep *very* safe in comfort! n/t hootinholler Mar 2013 #209

Or big bottoms? edbermac Mar 2013 #186

SHOCKER !!! amuse bouche Mar 2013 #178

I thought it said "sexiest men prefer bigger boobs". sibelian Mar 2013 #185

Nigel Tufnel? Is that you? nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #237

and so do non sexist men...whats the point?nt SwampG8r Mar 2013 #187

Non-sexist men would not establish physical preferences like breast size. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #217

given the animal nature of man SwampG8r Mar 2013 #229

You're kidding, right? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #231

First and foremost DFW Mar 2013 #198

Side boob XRubicon Mar 2013 #205

Obvious conclusion is obvious. Initech Mar 2013 #207

Oh, crap. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #210

Taste? Rex Mar 2013 #236

Hmmm. Good question. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #239

Whenever I'm surveyed, it's about politics or shopping habits ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2013 #214

That is why women should keep their smaller boobs Trascoli Mar 2013 #219

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Because no one is actually grows large breasts BainsBane Mar 2013 #228

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I wonder if Dr. Timothy Leary had anything to do with this creation lol. BootinUp Mar 2013 #226

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making me watch that BootinUp Mar 2013 #235

Don't have a strong preference one way or the other. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #238

Sexist Men Love Bigger Breasts Says Study nwoow Mar 2013 #240