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Crepuscular

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139. Definition?

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 09:03 PM

Mar 2013

Assault rifles are already heavily regulated. If you meant "assault weapons", if you are using the definition of "assault weapon" used in the Connecticut AWB that was in place, the weapon used at Sandy Hook was not an "assault weapon". If you are using the definition included in DiFi's proposed bill, it continues to allow dozens of models of semi-automatic weapons that use detachable magazines, in the same caliber used at Sandy Hook. So what is accomplished other than some "feel goodism"?

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He fired more than 152 bullets in less than five minutes [View all] malaise Mar 2013 OP

Yes--fuck you, NRA. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1

The motion is seconded - any discussion? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #2

+1 Thank You southern_belle Mar 2013 #11

None having been heard motion carried. FUCK YOU NRA! lonestarnot Mar 2013 #63

Without objection, I move that the vote be recorded as unanimous. 11 Bravo Mar 2013 #104

Carries unanimously. It is SO ORDERED! lastlib Mar 2013 #120

I don't get these people malaise Mar 2013 #19

Money is God RC Mar 2013 #45

My problem is that I have no gods so I don't understand malaise Mar 2013 #78

May I introduce you to the tobacco industry? n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #113

and fuck their defenders as well fascisthunter Mar 2013 #3

OK, what does the NRA have to do with that? Recursion Mar 2013 #4

yeah laws limiting magazines to 10 bullets dsc Mar 2013 #6

No, 10 round magazines wouldn't have slowed him down Recursion Mar 2013 #9

"Sustained rate of fire" mean anything to you? rdharma Mar 2013 #34

The Assault Weapons Ban, for one. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #42

No, the assault weapons ban would have made him change the shape of his grip Recursion Mar 2013 #47

Enough with the NRA talking points. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #48

CT had a AWB Homerj1 Mar 2013 #49

It should have been. The NRA/gun lobby prevents meaningful gun control. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #54

Then get somebody to propose a law that would ban it rather than regulate its looks Recursion Mar 2013 #56

Enough with the lies. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #60

I am not ****ing lying. I'm telling you what the law *you support* actually says Recursion Mar 2013 #61

The stupidity of the AWB in two pictures hack89 Mar 2013 #74

It's no lie. X_Digger Mar 2013 #89

Somehow I don't think Homerj1 Mar 2013 #64

Connecticut HAS AN AWB under which the gun was legal Recursion Mar 2013 #53

The rifle Lanza used would have been perfectly legal from 1994-2004, during the AWB. sir pball Mar 2013 #93

You are completely wrong, and have no idea what the AWB acutally banned. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #103

I just shared your post with my son, a retired member of the 3/7 29 Palms HangOnKids Mar 2013 #51

Well, I'm right Recursion Mar 2013 #52

He said you are full of crap HangOnKids Mar 2013 #58

1. No. 2. Yes. What the hell do either of those have to do with anything? Recursion Mar 2013 #59

Over you dude HangOnKids Mar 2013 #62

Sucks when you realize you're wrong huh? Nice appeal to 'authority' though. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #106

Hey great to see you HangOnKids Mar 2013 #108

Yeah, I'd ignore people too if they presented 100% true facts that didn't fit with my contrived worl AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #109

You are being completely unreasonable to Recursion. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #111

What does having a purple heart have to do with understanding the text of a law AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #105

I'd like to know CokeMachine Mar 2013 #123

Does he represent you in court, too? sofa king Mar 2013 #125

LOL. Thanks for the post. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #57

I can show you that Recursion is right with two pictures hack89 Mar 2013 #76

Ok then booley Mar 2013 #95

You can't do that without banning about 75% of guns -- which could well be a good thing Recursion Mar 2013 #97

It's an ergonomic safety/comfort issue. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #107

You don't know that, the likely hood that he'd be able to reload like a person trained to do so with uponit7771 Mar 2013 #72

NRA opposes limiting magazine capacity to 10 Progressive dog Mar 2013 #22

Not that much more Recursion Mar 2013 #24

How many fewer deaths would be not that much more? Progressive dog Mar 2013 #28

3 would at least do something like what you're trying to achieve Recursion Mar 2013 #55

10? No. rdharma Mar 2013 #36

Why you keep linking to a video of full-auto fire is beyond me. X_Digger Mar 2013 #41

"video of full-auto fire is beyond me" rdharma Mar 2013 #79

Yes, apples and oranges have different sugar content. X_Digger Mar 2013 #86

Obtuse? nt rdharma Mar 2013 #88

No, just not falling for your red herring. X_Digger Mar 2013 #91

The fastest reload....... rdharma Mar 2013 #94

Blissful nescience it is, then. n/t X_Digger Mar 2013 #96

wrong question.. annabanana Mar 2013 #26

Imagine what Adam Lana would have done with a drum of bullets. Protecting shit like bluestate10 Mar 2013 #5

Cruz is the face but remember malaise Mar 2013 #8

I love the Carnival Cruz name he's acquired. Cleita Mar 2013 #13

That's very good since they are a perfect metaphor malaise Mar 2013 #15

Actually, the issue is more complex than that. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #110

A drum magazine would probably slowed him down. ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #121

A round approximately every two seconds not counting 5 magazine changes. If they were 30 round geckosfeet Mar 2013 #7

Fuck the NRA. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #10

and all the ReTHUG malaise Mar 2013 #12

How about Wayne LaPierre? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #16

+1,000 malaise Mar 2013 #17

That segment on TRMS gave me an anxiety attack. Fuck anyone Laurian Mar 2013 #14

I think Newtown was the laststraw for most people malaise Mar 2013 #18

Most people perhaps, TheCowsCameHome Mar 2013 #20

The cigarette folks behaved the same way malaise Mar 2013 #21

cigerettes Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #23

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #27

There is no proof that this post makes sense Progressive dog Mar 2013 #30

What "official Conspiracy story" do you mean? Enlighten me please? Thank you. nt uppityperson Mar 2013 #32

WTF are you talking about? tosh Mar 2013 #35

It Was For Me - America's Gun Culture Is An Abomination cantbeserious Mar 2013 #29

How do you prevent such an atrocity? n/t krispos42 Mar 2013 #40

Watched it. RiffRandell Mar 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author sangsaran Mar 2013 #46

NRA is POS Progressive dog Mar 2013 #31

Red herring right here. eom BillyJack Mar 2013 #33

Explain. n/t AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #71

and not one republican senator voted to advance the background check bill. spanone Mar 2013 #37

Comparison of high cap magazines..... and really high cap magazines. rdharma Mar 2013 #38

That's a cool Homerj1 Mar 2013 #50

That is terrifying on so many levels. blackspade Mar 2013 #65

Thanks for that malaise Mar 2013 #68

***VERY VERY INFORMATIVE*** Changes capacity debate no doubt uponit7771 Mar 2013 #73

And this is relevant to the US Civilian market how? AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #114

Fun video, but not all that useful. ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #122

change times do not play into the duration rdharma Mar 2013 #127

You seem confused. ManiacJoe Mar 2013 #130

"mag change times become less of a factor" rdharma Mar 2013 #131

He reloaded at least 5 times. krispos42 Mar 2013 #39

But...an armed guard... moondust Mar 2013 #43

He did? Why? flvegan Mar 2013 #44

Ban them now mwrguy Mar 2013 #66

I agree malaise Mar 2013 #69

+1 AngryOldDem Mar 2013 #70

What about handguns? Do you support banning them? hack89 Mar 2013 #75

regulate the fuck out of them. laundry_queen Mar 2013 #81

Do you have any proposals that the American public would actually support? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #82

Americans would support it laundry_queen Mar 2013 #83

I agree they support some gun control and we should pass what we can. hack89 Mar 2013 #84

Every response you receive is answered with the same question re-qualified. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #115

The poster wants to basically ban all guns hack89 Mar 2013 #118

So "ban all" the guns that were used in ~300 murders last year sir pball Mar 2013 #98

actually I'd like all guns banned laundry_queen Mar 2013 #112

Hyperbole Crepuscular Mar 2013 #87

Good slogan greatlaurel Mar 2013 #100

Diane Feinstein missed a great opportunity TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #67

Enumerated Constitutional rights mean everything in US law. hack89 Mar 2013 #77

That is all the more amazing regarding how teachers protected their kids JPZenger Mar 2013 #80

Is anyone proposing a stand alone Clip size regulation? One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #85

unless Crepuscular Mar 2013 #92

Short term effect would be none One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #99

magazines last 100 years, so I don't see much long term impact either. Crepuscular Mar 2013 #101

Like plane crashes One_Life_To_Give Mar 2013 #117

Rachel for President nt fadedrose Mar 2013 #90

Cho at Virginia Tech reloaded 11 times. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #102

5 round, 3 round, 2 round magazines..... N_E_1 for Tennis Mar 2013 #116

"I will not listen" Recursion Mar 2013 #124

I agree with you malaise Mar 2013 #132

Definition? Crepuscular Mar 2013 #139

But that's not enough for Americans to protect themselves from the bad guys. valerief Mar 2013 #119

Yes indeed malaise Mar 2013 #138

Well, the lives of the several families who own the planet are important. The rest of us? Phffft! nt valerief Mar 2013 #141

See - you understand malaise Mar 2013 #142

As I say endlessly, making rich people richer is the most important thing in the world. valerief Mar 2013 #143

Until ALL bullets are off the streets.... The NRA must be defeated totally. graham4anything Mar 2013 #126

I listened to Rachel on the radio driving home from the airport yesterday evening. mountain grammy Mar 2013 #128

Newton was a terrible tragedy wercal Mar 2013 #129

No - banning assault rifles would prevent another such slaughter n/t malaise Mar 2013 #133

Not really wercal Mar 2013 #134

Your post seems truncated? another_liberal Mar 2013 #135

Too emotional.. 4bucksagallon Mar 2013 #136

He fires 152 bullets and killed 20 young children and their educators malaise Mar 2013 #137

Yep, that is what I said, you'll never get anyone on board that way. 4bucksagallon Mar 2013 #140