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13. From the same Wikipedia article...

Wed Feb 1, 2012, 01:32 PM

Feb 2012

In 2009, Planned Parenthood provided 4,009,549 contraceptive services (35% of total), 3,955,926 sexually transmitted disease services (35% of total), 1,830,811 cancer related services (16% of total), 1,178,369 pregnancy/prenatal/midlife services (10% of total), 332,278 abortion services (3% of total), and 76,977 other services (1% of total), for a total of 11,383,900 services. The organization also said its doctors and nurses annually conduct 1 million screenings for cervical cancer and 830,000 breast exams.

(bold added for emphasis)

Let's put it this way, then: abortions are a small part of the medical services they perform for women: 3%, by the numbers in Wikipedia.

Its opponents act as if abortions is all they do, or at least everything else is a sideline.

They don't care what it does in real life. To them it is a symbol, and they want to kill it and mount its head on a wall. (and I'm sure there's at least a few who'd like to literally do that to PP's leadership.)

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Are_grits_groceries Feb 2012 OP

any money i may have donated to susan g komen barbtries Feb 2012 #1

+1 Scuba Feb 2012 #144

I like Juanita Jean's response hobbit709 Feb 2012 #2

Brilliant JustAnotherGen Feb 2012 #3

Yep! Delphinus Feb 2012 #4

Might this make a good OP? JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #5

She's a Right Winger - anti LGBT as well. ehrnst Feb 2012 #9

K&R-ing this thread so this idea gets seen renate Feb 2012 #10

I just went to the PP website and donated.. ananda Feb 2012 #82

Just sent a donation in her name. Hope she enjoys all the cards! likesmountains 52 Feb 2012 #111

I'll do that ... and send some wire coat-hangers to Komen. TahitiNut Feb 2012 #156

I'm saving my pittance of donatable $$ for the DU heart drive for PP Kali Feb 2012 #165

Karen Handel is an outspoken anti-choicer obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #6

I have to correct the factual inaccuracies in your post Zebedeo Feb 2012 #11

My post was correct, you can use your stats however you wish obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #12

OK. In what other contexts would you consider 332,278 Zebedeo Feb 2012 #19

You're not reading before you post...she said abortions is one of the joeybee12 Feb 2012 #20

No. Zebedeo Feb 2012 #22

And? That's great. lapislzi Feb 2012 #24

Then at least YOU are intellectually honest Zebedeo Feb 2012 #30

Who is saying abortion is a 'wonderful' thing? Access to health care services, including abortion Fuzz Feb 2012 #40

Posters in this thread Zebedeo Feb 2012 #44

Who is being "intellectually dishonest" now? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #48

Who said that they want the number to increase? And, your quotes from your own post mislead. yardwork Feb 2012 #69

Post #39, for example Zebedeo Feb 2012 #84

Too chicken to address me directly. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #108

"They want the number to increase" trumad Feb 2012 #79

What's that got to do with saying people find abortions are a 'wonderful' thing? Fuzz Feb 2012 #101

It's because we don't care about the number obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #46

I can think of one reason. laundry_queen Feb 2012 #77

I'll take the bullet for you. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #83

Nothing that I have posted in this thread, or any thread on DU Zebedeo Feb 2012 #88

Ain't plausible deniability worderful? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #95

You really can't stand the reality of that 3% of services obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #102

Or 15% of income, which is still a minor fraction. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #114

What I would celebrate... ananda Feb 2012 #80

In every context obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #26

SMH Mr Dixon Feb 2012 #62

In 2008, there were 1,211,500 abortions performed in all of the US REP Feb 2012 #70

Thank God they didn't have to resort to back alley butchers! annabanana Feb 2012 #119

Thank you, annabanana! Carolina Feb 2012 #158

Okay, so there are roughly 115,000 kids awaiting adoption in foster care right now justiceischeap Feb 2012 #150

From the same Wikipedia article... JHB Feb 2012 #13

Yup, I edited mine to add in the percentages obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #14

Pffft. Facts don't matter when there's an agenda to be pushed REP Feb 2012 #16

I'm not flush, but if it's going to PP? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #28

They are counting each refill of a birth control prescription as Zebedeo Feb 2012 #21

I'm not defensive at all obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #23

332,000 per year - "that isn't alot of abortions." Zebedeo Feb 2012 #27

I don't consider any number alot obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #29

If you don't consider any number a lot, Zebedeo Feb 2012 #33

What would you consider "a lot", "a lot" being a totally subjective number? uppityperson Feb 2012 #35

332,278 per year n/t Zebedeo Feb 2012 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #37

Well, I guess you should push for more abortions so that they are not so few and far between Zebedeo Feb 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Feb 2012 #50

I like your answer. :) Spock_is_Skeptical Feb 2012 #134

Best answer ever Irishonly Feb 2012 #161

I'd think the relevant and honest way of stating it would be LanternWaste Feb 2012 #63

And what number would be acceptable to you? Gold Metal Flake Feb 2012 #38

Too few, actually. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #39

Wow -- that's alot of unborn possible babies obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #43

They must do them all to cover their abortion stats. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #45

I bet each testicle counts as one instance obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #47

How about 1,211,500 - the number of ALL abortions performed in the US in 2008? REP Feb 2012 #72

I think that's tragic Zebedeo Feb 2012 #85

Why? REP Feb 2012 #89

Because abortion Zebedeo Feb 2012 #93

Actually, abortion does not have negative emotional sequelae REP Feb 2012 #96

Thank you for posting all that. uppityperson Feb 2012 #121

I imagine that a back alley abortion causes emotional and physical trauma. In fact, sometimes death. yardwork Feb 2012 #127

You are correct. That is addressed in this study: REP Feb 2012 #138

and the adverse effects would be a lot less if they weren't constantly hounded by it. grantcart Feb 2012 #147

Except peer-reviewed studies show that isn't true obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #106

Where'd you get that information about the experience of the "baby's" mother and father? yardwork Feb 2012 #126

it depends on how you intend to decrease the number of abortions magical thyme Feb 2012 #157

Why is it tragic and heartbreaking? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #104

Are you going to support all Carolina Feb 2012 #160

Not all abortions involve a live fetus or "healthy birth" - but all abortions involve a live mother. haele Feb 2012 #76

Thoughtful post, but you conflate two different issues Zebedeo Feb 2012 #86

Two tenths of one percent of women got abortions last year a simple pattern Feb 2012 #103

nonsequitur Zebedeo Feb 2012 #109

They don't exist for you people after they're born, do they? a simple pattern Feb 2012 #117

No. You said 332,278 per year was "a lot", not 'not "very few"'. If you are going to claim you said uppityperson Feb 2012 #122

Actually, they aren't different issues. haele Feb 2012 #135

How many uteruses do you have? I'm betting the number is zero, or maybe one. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #53

YOU GO, WARREN!!! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #54

Thank you. Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #56

Jury is back Ruby the Liberal Feb 2012 #57

hey juror #2: MY opinion is that it's the woman's decision, period. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #60

Also, without getting too much into meta territory, this highlights one of the problems with Juries Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #66

Exactly n/t obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #67

That experience was educational; up to now, I thought you were notified if a post was alerted on. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #78

I did not "advocate an anti-choice agenda." I merely corrected an erroneous claim Zebedeo Feb 2012 #87

Out of 1,211,500 total abortions in the US (2008) - Planned Parenthood doesn't perform even half REP Feb 2012 #91

Well, it's not "very few." That was a whopper of a statement. Zebedeo Feb 2012 #94

Quibble over your notion if a quarter is a very few or not. REP Feb 2012 #97

What do you think of Skinner's initiative here? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #99

irrelevant Zebedeo Feb 2012 #110

I also just contributed $25 to Planned Parenthood. Because of you and you alone. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #112

No shit. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #118

Yeah! Let's contribute, man! For Zebedeo! Hallelujah! Praise the FSM and Dawkins who is His prophet! 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #120

What do you think of it? Not in relation to this thread. uppityperson Feb 2012 #123

Nope, my claim was true -- 3% keeps staring you in the face obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #107

Right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #116

In old DU, your post would probably have been deleted. This is a much better outcome. yardwork Feb 2012 #129

BTW, I am not the one Zebedeo Feb 2012 #140

Well, that's rather rude. But I have a thick skin and am willing to forgive and forget. Zebedeo Feb 2012 #90

If someone finds a gun has become dependent upon their body to survive... REP Feb 2012 #92

Rudeness 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #113

I don't care if you think it's "rude". I'm sick as fuck of fucking anti-choicers. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #115

You didn't answer the question about women who have had hysterectomies. Zebedeo Feb 2012 #128

The MAJOR thing you are forgetting is that making abortion illegal will NOT prevent abortions. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #132

Okay. To start, "Opinion" can mean several different things. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #142

You answered two questions Zebedeo Feb 2012 #143

Here's a question for you.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #145

You're not listening to me. But OK; I'll let you define the terms of the debate and ..wait, what? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #166

Oh my obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #130

...DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!! We have a winner Spock_is_Skeptical Feb 2012 #137

We have a winner, folks! proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #100

Oh damn a simple pattern Feb 2012 #105

I gotta agree with you there, Warren. MADem Feb 2012 #146

Way to go! Irishonly Feb 2012 #162

Are you going to lecture us about the "holocaust of the unborn" now, too? PVnRT Feb 2012 #58

IMO Mr Dixon Feb 2012 #64

You are 100% right obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #68

Document or retract. REP Feb 2012 #71

No documentation of this spurious claim. Not surprised at all. REP Feb 2012 #98

Where did you get that information from? Link please. Thank you for showing it's not just made up uppityperson Feb 2012 #124

I Googled and found out where that info came from obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #131

Probably wouldn't. "tragic and heartbreaking" indeed. uppityperson Feb 2012 #133

Each refill of a birth control prescription prevents an unwanted pregnancy. yardwork Feb 2012 #125

Of course I do. Zebedeo Feb 2012 #139

This is 100% not true, and you haven't documented it as asked obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #151

"This is done for PR purposes in order to make the organization less controversial." Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #153

You don't seem to care about preventing pregnancies. Maybe you're against birth control? yardwork Feb 2012 #154

+1000 librechik Feb 2012 #31

That's about 15% of its 2009-2010 budget. Sgent Feb 2012 #15

A very small % of what they do, but shows how important they are to women. MH1 Feb 2012 #17

Of course Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider. Gormy Cuss Feb 2012 #52

Thank you, Gormy, I was obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #55

Do you think abortion should be legal? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #81

Three percent (3%) of all Planned Parenthood services are abortions ellie Feb 2012 #136

I have been informed this poster is no longer with us obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #164

It isn't even all about abortion. It's that notion of PLANNED parenthood MH1 Feb 2012 #18

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #7

More information on Karen Handel, Komen's new VP of Public Policy ehrnst Feb 2012 #8

So apparently lesbian women don't get breast cancer KamaAina Feb 2012 #49

And no post menopausal women get breast cancer either sarge43 Feb 2012 #149

This news saddens me Harmony Blue Feb 2012 #25

K & R Scurrilous Feb 2012 #32

Hey Erick Erickson, you are a fucking idiot. NOTE: Erik is the RW quoted in OP, NOT the OP. uppityperson Feb 2012 #34

+1... SidDithers Feb 2012 #42

Since that post was hidden due to reading comprehension issues on the part of the jurors kath Feb 2012 #141

+1 for this and for blogslut's hidden post. Bolo Boffin Feb 2012 #73

Good information! Thank you for letting us know WHERE the pressure came from csziggy Feb 2012 #51

I PLEDGE I will NEVER visit a Susan G. Komen care center or donate to them. librechik Feb 2012 #59

This story is hitting the media and of course the various feminist groups... CBHagman Feb 2012 #61

A facebook friend said PP has had a spike of 26% donations today obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #65

I saw that PP got $400K donated yesterday Bolo Boffin Feb 2012 #74

Wow -- a 250K donantion! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #75

They started pissing me off when they started suing small charities, to be honest. MADem Feb 2012 #148

I know! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #152

We need a "Planned Parenthood" walk for charity! ThatsMyBarack Feb 2012 #155

There is also another connection here: James O'keefe Raine1967 Feb 2012 #159

Planned Parenthood should go after the SGK foundation's core business. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #163