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niyad

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If you're unsure why benevolent sexism is worth discussing,Google 'benevolent sexism victim blaming' [View all] redqueen Mar 2013 OP

This is coming directly from the holding doors open discussion? Right? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #1

No, from the benevolent sexism discussion. redqueen Mar 2013 #2

Sorry. I saw a lot of "benevolent sexism" mentioned in the "door opening" threads. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #6

So if it's throwing feces, you're all in.. but if it's something serious redqueen Mar 2013 #9

So feisty! Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #12

Why would anyone alert on your post? redqueen Mar 2013 #15

You seem so outraged by all this! Squinch Mar 2013 #135

Different definitions of seriousness apply I think... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #32

"a subconscious urge to subjugate women" does not qualify as serious?? pleae tell me you forgot niyad Mar 2013 #153

i love it when you talk dirty datasuspect Mar 2013 #125

You know, there's a difference between fighting for a cause, and fighting just because. n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #156

no, you saw a lot of "door opening" remarks in the benevolent sexism threads, but, hey, niyad Mar 2013 #10

meh. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #14

You asked redqueen no questions based in reality. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #18

still smarting, are you? Whisp Mar 2013 #19

as are mine, so thanks. niyad Mar 2013 #20

yes. because you men created a manufactured argument to become the victims, being picked on by seabeyond Mar 2013 #28

It's not just the door treestar Mar 2013 #147

This is why I like to stand with my hands on my hips in front of glass doors at the mall.... Ian David Mar 2013 #157

Kick it up a notch. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #158

And then are you supposed to look confused, like you can't understand why the door won't open? n/t Ian David Mar 2013 #177

You've done this before! Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #178

How do you..... NCTraveler Mar 2013 #3

Ok. Noted. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #8

believe me, it is for some posters. niyad Mar 2013 #13

go easy on the straw, man fishwax Mar 2013 #4

You shouldn't open doors. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #47

Novel idea. I'll give it some thought. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #150

... babylonsister Mar 2013 #152

k and r and thank you for shedding light on a very serious issue. niyad Mar 2013 #5

It has to be intentional. redqueen Mar 2013 #11

Wow, another thread on this? Apophis Mar 2013 #7

nobody is forcing you to read threads you find redundant, or useless, or uninteresting. niyad Mar 2013 #17

A least it's all of those things you listed. That makes is interesting. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #164

You can never have enough threads on the same subject submitted by the same person. Never. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #26

ah, cause 10 Ops about doors. but, wtf, right? nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #39

Even when the subject is doors? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #62

Maybe it's a door fetish thing. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #165

why, isnt it a bummer us women having to continually address these stupid lies the men are putting seabeyond Mar 2013 #30

Um kick any 100 of the other treads on this topic. Apophis Mar 2013 #40

There is only one other OP about this topic. All the rest are about opening doors... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #42

Exactly. redqueen Mar 2013 #43

"Some," as in you? Apophis Mar 2013 #61

Could you point me to the actual discussion? I am being sincere here... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #69

Post 31 in this very thread, for example. Apophis Mar 2013 #81

The "drama" is people side-tracking and trivializing the topic of the OP. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #92

I never claimed the OP was another "stupid door opening thread". Apophis Mar 2013 #95

Okay. So where are the 100 of other OPs on THIS topic that we should Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #98

... Apophis Mar 2013 #99

No. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #102

This entire thread is theKed Mar 2013 #116

Seriously, Redqueen, this issue started downhill... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #70

no. it started downhill when a number of men refused to read a definition of benevolent sexism and seabeyond Mar 2013 #72

That never happened. redqueen Mar 2013 #75

Post that same blurb all you like... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #77

Someone told you what? redqueen Mar 2013 #93

Link NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #96

You misread or mischaracterized his statement. Which is it? redqueen Mar 2013 #97

Actually, you are right about one thing... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #106

By the same token, if some women don't appreciate having doors held for them simply because Squinch Mar 2013 #137

Nothing about door there treestar Mar 2013 #149

Nope, it started with this.. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #82

Please re-read from post to which you replied. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #89

bumper crop of straw this year MattBaggins Mar 2013 #74

It's the flavor of the day. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #55

yes, a gang of men presenting misogyny is a walk in the park. women know this well. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #66

Wow...I don't even know what to make of that one. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #73

when men purposely tell lies repeatedly saying feminists are outraged and picking on them, making seabeyond Mar 2013 #76

Okie dokie, then. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #85

It is continually and on many threads treestar Mar 2013 #146

I'll put it on the list quinnox Mar 2013 #16

You care that little about the ideas which fuel rape culture. redqueen Mar 2013 #21

Holding doors open for women = Steubenville rapes Major Nikon Mar 2013 #22

You are obviously intentionally twisting words in order to dismiss feminist issues. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #23

Maybe not. Maybe he just saw the same bullshit I saw and is calling it. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #27

See post 25. It's telling that you're all in to mock and trivialize, redqueen Mar 2013 #29

Naturally you would never twist anyone's words around Major Nikon Mar 2013 #38

exactly, lol quinnox Mar 2013 #83

again. manufacturing a lie to dismiss real issues. ya, i get it. you think it is funny and would seabeyond Mar 2013 #33

The irony is getting pretty thick here Major Nikon Mar 2013 #34

That one rejects "no means no" so not a person with credibility on the geek tragedy Mar 2013 #118

It's a slippery Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #160

oh boy quinnox Mar 2013 #24

People who score high in benevolent sexism place less blame on rapists redqueen Mar 2013 #25

Why should that surprise anyone? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #36

Who's surprised? Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #44

Good question Major Nikon Mar 2013 #52

"barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen" are not examples of benevolent sexism. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #54

That's exactly what benevolent sexism is Major Nikon Mar 2013 #114

Benevolent sexism allows for women in the workplace. Hostile sexism, such as Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #115

Both happen inside and outside the workplace Major Nikon Mar 2013 #117

Since people are mocking the idea of benevolent sexism, by throwing feces in threads about doors, redqueen Mar 2013 #49

"ties into" can be a very misleading statement Major Nikon Mar 2013 #80

Did you read any of the studies which indicate that that is exactly the case? redqueen Mar 2013 #84

No, and I suspect none such studies exist Major Nikon Mar 2013 #104

yes, being uninformed and uneducated, refusing facts is so.... oh what, fox like? and being proud seabeyond Mar 2013 #35

Seems to be plenty of educators around here to set us all straight Major Nikon Mar 2013 #41

no. all you men are doing is contaminating the subject enough to make it about doors. OP after OP seabeyond Mar 2013 #57

Well it's certainly true that anyone who disagrees with a self-described feminist is a misogynist Major Nikon Mar 2013 #86

"All you men are doing..." NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #121

please then, continue with the "edumacation" quinnox Mar 2013 #88

Question to you, are you offended when a man holds a door open for you? yes/no? Logical Mar 2013 #79

Really? Doors? Still? nt redqueen Mar 2013 #87

Yes, simple question. Even for you. Does it offend you? n-t Logical Mar 2013 #90

It's not about fucking doors. The people here who are trying to discuss benevolent sexism Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #94

You keep posting that same piece... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #123

That it. I refuse to hold doors open for women anymore. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #167

some interesting stuff at those links, redqueen. Thanks Whisp Mar 2013 #31

Thanks... redqueen Mar 2013 #65

I don't think that a lot of people get that this isn't about opening doors cali Mar 2013 #37

that's why they refuse to go further into the debate with any seriousness. Whisp Mar 2013 #45

people are being assholes, it has reached the level i thought was only possible with wingnuts JI7 Mar 2013 #162

Down with Chivalry!! Who would have survived the Titanic in such an age? MjolnirTime Mar 2013 #46

Probably the people who jumped in lifeboats and rowed like hell. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #50

another post of dishonesty to contaminate a subject and make men victims. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #60

Do we really theKed Mar 2013 #48

There are only TWO threads about benevolent sexism. The rest are about opening doors. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #56

Like I said... theKed Mar 2013 #58

since men are once again contaminating the subject with doors to shut women up and become victims... seabeyond Mar 2013 #63

Those darn men! theKed Mar 2013 #103

If two threads about a topic is burdensome for you, there is a little x next to the title. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #67

There are (last time I looked anyways) theKed Mar 2013 #101

There are two original posts about benevolent sexism. ALL the rest are about straw... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #105

None of what I said was false theKed Mar 2013 #108

Clicked on your links, still don't think it's a big deal LittleBlue Mar 2013 #51

Kind of what I thought. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #59

and still not the issue. but then, consistently you do not have an issue with any sexism, so seabeyond Mar 2013 #68

I don't have an issue with the outrage du jour. LittleBlue Mar 2013 #91

I think it's entirely plausible to believe DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #53

Thumbs up. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #64

and what about the upward 10 Ops making this about a damn door when we have repeatedly said it is seabeyond Mar 2013 #71

I'm not going to swim in all this, no DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #78

Do you realize that you're the one who keeps bringing up the door in this thread? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #122

these kinds of posts are an affront to true feminism. datasuspect Mar 2013 #127

and what, exactly, is "true feminism"? niyad Mar 2013 #143

the opposite of carciature feminism datasuspect Mar 2013 #148

having never heard of either "cartoon feminism" or "troll feminism", do, please, elucidate. niyad Mar 2013 #151

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #107

Neither you nor the other poster DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #109

Oh, I caught that alright. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #111

+ a million Apophis Mar 2013 #113

You're bucking a coalition here RQ lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #100

I for one have taken sharp_stick Mar 2013 #110

Good for you! NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #120

"Benevolent sexism ..." chervilant Mar 2013 #112

Hatred of men is misandry - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2013 #128

I never knew. chervilant Mar 2013 #139

Yawn RetroLounge Mar 2013 #119

Ambivalent Sexism survey klook Mar 2013 #124

Thanks for the links! Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #129

Interesting Orrex Mar 2013 #140

do you hear that? datasuspect Mar 2013 #126

you keep telling yourself that, sweetie. most of us know that simply is not the case. niyad Mar 2013 #130

Would you be offended if someone called you "sweetie"? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #131

depends on who, and why. but seriously, that is the best you can come up with? niyad Mar 2013 #132

No, it just sort of jumped out at me. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #133

right-o jiggles, datasuspect Mar 2013 #134

oh my, such a little word to cause such reactions. . apparently a case of "you can dish it out. . niyad Mar 2013 #141

cool post bro datasuspect Mar 2013 #142

remdi95 niyad Mar 2013 #145

ooooh, what's that? A little google nugget, perhaps? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #166

Would you consider "men will kill each other and everyone" to be a bigoted statement? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #136

"The beatings will continue until morale improves" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #138

It is certainly worth discussing... dogknob Mar 2013 #144

What the fuck ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #154

Rawr! dogknob Mar 2013 #159

Well, if it's in a book... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #179

This is why I ALWAYS leave the toilet seat up. So I'm not benevolently sexist. Ian David Mar 2013 #155

Ew, dude ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #163

I go a step further and leave the seat down and just piss on it. Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #170

you too, eh? d_b Mar 2013 #180

Exactly! Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #181

It's obvious who doesn't care. JTFrog Mar 2013 #161

Yeah, you'd think someone on DU was linking to a blogger who advocates gender-based baby starving. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #168

Oh, look, here comes one now. n/t JTFrog Mar 2013 #169

here comes one what? A blogger who advocates starving babies on the basis of gender? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #171

GFY. JTFrog Mar 2013 #172

Grand Forks Yountville? Grievously Ferocious Yodeling? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #173

Good For You. JTFrog Mar 2013 #174

Okay, Okay. "My Hovercraft Is Full Of Eels" Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #175

GFY? Official music video Kenelis 'GFY' (Radio Edit) Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #176