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Iris

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130. Dainty flower, maybe, but more like incapable and delegated to the role of childbearer

Sat Mar 16, 2013, 07:45 PM

Mar 2013

and caretaker. Somehow being not quite as physically strong as men was turned into also not being intellectually strong as well. I think divorcing the latter from the former is not that hard to do.

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Do women have agency in sustaining 'benevolent sexism' if they are accepting and appreciative [View all] whatchamacallit Mar 2013 OP

"How do you view them?" NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #1

Really? Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #2

Ya know what? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #3

Speak for yourself pintobean Mar 2013 #14

Yep. RobertEarl Mar 2013 #20

Ok... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #47

Act like a man? RobertEarl Mar 2013 #74

Subtlety is lost on you apparently... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #108

War is the basis for all our problems RobertEarl Mar 2013 #110

As a realist... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #134

Heh. zappaman Mar 2013 #58

Oh, yeah pintobean Mar 2013 #61

Huh? Niceties and manners have nothing to do with equal pay, respect for another's Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #4

The problem is that in many cases they do MattBaggins Mar 2013 #24

You and I will disagree on that, then. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #34

Your societal norms are in fact sexist MattBaggins Mar 2013 #44

Very well said. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #42

Dainty flower, maybe, but more like incapable and delegated to the role of childbearer Iris Mar 2013 #130

If she expects special treatment, she is not "modern" bettyellen Mar 2013 #5

There is a physical difference between male and female, though. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #38

But shouldn't a young, strong athletic woman help a small elderly or weak or disabled man? MillennialDem Mar 2013 #43

Absolutely. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #45

Of course! I'm a middle aged woman, and I have assisted elderly people, or Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #48

My point is more with the belly up concept MillennialDem Mar 2013 #51

I'd like to think I would, too. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #53

Fair enough n/t MillennialDem Mar 2013 #57

It's if it's expected where you go off track.... bettyellen Mar 2013 #125

I think... Quantess Mar 2013 #6

Or just slam it. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #11

Did you miss the part where... I'm a sarcastic woman? Quantess Mar 2013 #22

Yes, I was replying with sarcasm too. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #23

I caught it. I was going to suggest maybe handing out a questionnaire instead Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #49

Do you actually refuse to listen to the issue or are you just being obtuse? MattBaggins Mar 2013 #25

Just being obtuse (and sarcastic), Matt. Thanks for asking. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #26

Annoyed at the folks intentionally being morons when they know better. MattBaggins Mar 2013 #28

OK - you got me. I don't take this whole door opening = sexist thing seriously. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #31

Do you acknowledge that the issue of Benevolent Sexism is not about opening doors MattBaggins Mar 2013 #33

I think it's seriously overstated... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #37

If you slammed it, that is a personal affront and shows your anger toward women. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #40

My goodness. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #41

Oh...sorry. Guess I needed the smiley face. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #50

That's okay. It's been a wild day here. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 Mar 2013 #117

Or just be safe and slam doors in everybody's faces as hard as possible. Dash87 Mar 2013 #118

The temptation to have it both ways is large. dogknob Mar 2013 #7

You nailed it! Quantess Mar 2013 #10

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #12

Okay. That's your issue and you should go deal with it. Quantess Mar 2013 #18

How do you view them? DURHAM D Mar 2013 #8

Good question whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #9

Ever watch the courting rituals of birds? mick063 Mar 2013 #13

I do ponder where the societal and biological lines blur whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #15

Not one of the behaviors described is evolutionary MattBaggins Mar 2013 #27

I agree whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #29

Personally I would look to a Sociologist for that answer MattBaggins Mar 2013 #35

Even now a baby can't just be a baby. Iris Mar 2013 #131

....What? sibelian Mar 2013 #135

The gestures are the most minor part of it treestar Mar 2013 #16

People keep saying it's not about the gestures whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #17

The gestures are a symptom treestar Mar 2013 #19

Out of curiosity whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #21

Ouch. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #39

He's from an older generation, BUT his wife is a doctor. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #46

Careful on those stairs Honeycombe8 whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #52

Aww Honeycombe LittleBlue Mar 2013 #123

Women will have achieved equality treestar Mar 2013 #128

Why do you single him out? treestar Mar 2013 #127

Who did advocate that? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #129

All of society throughout the Victorian age treestar Mar 2013 #137

Why do you argue like this? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author MattBaggins Mar 2013 #30

Agree except for the last sentence. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #36

Women can change tires treestar Mar 2013 #126

You're preaching to the choir. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #133

Absolutely yes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #32

Well *this* woman Aerows Mar 2013 #54

Lol whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #56

Well Aerows Mar 2013 #59

I'm serious whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #63

The shit you can cut out Aerows Mar 2013 #66

How about you don't attribute every chauvinistic post you've read today to me whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #72

Yours is the first one I read Aerows Mar 2013 #75

Being considered for the benefit of an act of consideration chowder66 Mar 2013 #55

ANOTHER thread on this? Apophis Mar 2013 #60

More like Aerows Mar 2013 #64

The only annoying thing here gollygee Mar 2013 #65

Not my intent whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #67

It's exactly your intent Aerows Mar 2013 #69

Simple to prove whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #73

Ummm Aerows Mar 2013 #79

I didn't say or imply that you do speak for all women whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #82

You've already agreed Aerows Mar 2013 #87

Can you read the OP's mind? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #76

LOL Aerows Mar 2013 #77

Apparently you read it differently than I did. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #86

Bullshit Aerows Mar 2013 #92

Okay then. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #93

Yep, you've had a lot of fun with it Aerows Mar 2013 #94

I can see you're going to be relentless in broad-brushing me whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #96

Hey Aerows Mar 2013 #98

Why are you conflating my statements with those of others? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #100

If you think whether or not Aerows Mar 2013 #103

At this point I don't even know what we're talking about whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #106

Once you can tell me... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #97

I agree that juvenile horseshit can be good for the soul Aerows Mar 2013 #99

I love Grumpy Cat. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #101

I'm on board with Grumpy Cat :) Aerows Mar 2013 #104

The concept of benevolent sexism isn't about a specific act gollygee Mar 2013 #70

No, see what they are doing Aerows Mar 2013 #68

Agree 100% there gollygee Mar 2013 #71

So with a straight face whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #78

"Just askin'" Aerows Mar 2013 #80

Ha fuck that whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #81

One can only decide Aerows Mar 2013 #83

That goes for both of us Aerows n/t whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #84

:) Agreed n/t Aerows Mar 2013 #88

Just now? NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #85

Yes, these are just male bonding (herding up) exercises. DURHAM D Mar 2013 #89

For reals? whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #90

Not all men are into basketball. Some don't like basements. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #91

Not necessarily. sibelian Mar 2013 #136

certain posters are absent from this thread snooper2 Mar 2013 #95

certain posters are present in this thread Scout Mar 2013 #121

Well, when a man opens a door for me with that "here ya go little lady" smile, I Zorra Mar 2013 #102

we are damned if we do and damned if we don't Scout Mar 2013 #105

I appreciate that whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #107

well, if it's someone you want a relationship with, discuss it. Scout Mar 2013 #112

And if she indeed prefers to be treated 'old school' whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #114

douchebag? no. sexist, maybe. Scout Mar 2013 #119

I hear ya whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #124

"When it's offered, there is usually some kind of repayment expected." NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #109

depends on one's definition of repayment, doesn't it. Scout Mar 2013 #111

Fair enough... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #113

that's not what i said. Scout Mar 2013 #115

No, I've never heard that saying. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #116

"there is usually some kind of repayment expected " JI7 Mar 2013 #140

Chivalry is compatible with equality when it works both ways Warpy Mar 2013 #120

Unfortunately, those last three sentences are all too true. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #122

Yep. Warpy is good at cutting through the b.s. and getting straight to the point. n/t Iris Mar 2013 #132

can you give specifics ? JI7 Mar 2013 #139