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Showing Original Post only (View all)you're 'concerned' about flag burning -- this is what you should be 'concerned' about [View all]
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/americas/2012/01/30/homeless-cat-empires-hat
Phillip 'The Cat In The Hat' Black sells newspapers in Washington
"I know them all. This one on the wheelchair, with everybody around her. She sells heroin. That guy whos looking at you like that - hes high on crack. Don't take a picture of him or you might not get home to your daughters alive."
I first met Phillip Black on a corner of cosmopolitan F Street in Washington, a few stops away from Fords Theatre, where Abraham Lincoln was shot, and almost within earshot of the White House.
Surrounded by shops selling frozen yoghurt, organic gourmet sandwiches and trendy clothes, Phillip sells copies of Street Sense, a newspaper sold, and written by, the homeless.
If a customer pays the recommended donation price of $1 per copy, Phillip makes 65 cents per paper.


Incarceration in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States
Incarceration in the United States is one of the main forms of punishment and/or rehabilitation for the commission of felony and other offenses. The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009 it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population.[4][5][6][7][8]
According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) 2,292,133 adults were incarcerated in U.S. federal and state prisons, and county jails at year-end 2009 about 1% of adults in the U.S. resident population.[4][5][9][10] Additionally, 4,933,667 adults at year-end 2009 were on probation or on parole.[4] In total, 7,225,800 adults were under correctional supervision (probation, parole, jail, or prison) in 2009 about 3.1% of adults in the U.S. resident population.[3][4][11] In addition, there were 86,927 juveniles in juvenile detention in 2007.[12][13]
long term unemployment
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/06/the-many-the-doomed-the-long-term-unemployed
According to the December jobs report, there are nearly 5.6 million people in the U.S. who have been unemployed for six months or more42.5 percent of all unemployed Americans. Labor Department data shows them to be disproportionately black and Asian. They are slightly more likely to be men than women. They are not as well-educated as their more successful counterparts in the labor force. And the recovery is not benefiting them the same way that it is benefiting other laid-off Americans.
[See why there's hope for the economy in 2012.]
The unemployed population can be roughly split into two camps, says Stephen Rose, senior economist at Georgetown Unviersity's Center on Education and the Workforce: "There are cyclersthose who are there relatively short periods of time, and there's the long-term, who are there year in, year out." The "cyclers" make up a majority of the unemployed population, he says, but the long-term unemployed face a tougher challenge.
The long-term unemployed are not being kept out of work simply by a lack of economic confidence or a temporary decrease in demand for particular goods, says Scot Melland, president and CEO of Dice Holdings, a provider of career websites. "You clearly have a long-term unemployment issue in the U.S., but it's driven, I would argue, much more by structural factors that have to do withwhere's the demand for people in the economy?" says Melland.
the uninsured
http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/13/news/economy/census_bureau_health_insurance/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The number of people who lacked health insurance last year climbed to 49.9 million, up from 49 million in 2009, the Census Bureau said Tuesday.
Nationwide, 16.3% of the population was uninsured last year, statistically unchanged from 2009.
Three groups comprised the bulk of the uninsured in 2010, including foreign-born residents who are not U.S. citizens, young adults ages 19 to 25 and low-income families with an annual household income of less than $25,000.
Much of the declines in insured rates in recent years can be attributed to the loss of employer-provided coverage, which fell amid sustained unemployment and as employers continued to cut back on benefits.
The percentage of people who had health insurance through their employers fell to 55.3% in 2010 from 56.1% the year before, continuing a long, downward trend. In 2000, 64.1% of the population received health insurance through their employers.
i'll be more worried about peoples sensibilites about burning a flag when 'they' get more worries -- and DO SOMETHING about real problems.
everything else is horse shit.
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you're 'concerned' about flag burning -- this is what you should be 'concerned' about [View all]
xchrom
Feb 2012
OP
the thing worse than flag burning is the the thing that causes flag burning
phantom power
Feb 2012
#1
That way they can reassure themselves that they are essentially well-meaning.
Starry Messenger
Feb 2012
#8
OP is discussing the causes that led to the formation of OWS, not the tactics of OWS.
sudopod
Feb 2012
#22
There is a time and a place for every thing. This thread was not created to be that place.
sudopod
Feb 2012
#27
I look at things from a practical aspect - I am not into metaphysical navel gazing
hack89
Feb 2012
#31
That's the kind of intellectual and moral superiority that is going to take OWS far
hack89
Feb 2012
#40
The OP pointed out examples the injustices in our country that led to the formation of OWS.
sudopod
Feb 2012
#42
Show me where I said I was upset. All I said is that OWS was fucking stupid to burn a flag
hack89
Feb 2012
#43
OWS didn't agree to burn that flag but it would be too difficult to explian that
EFerrari
Feb 2012
#45
Too bad you don't show the same concern for the actual people who were hurt this weekend. n/t
EFerrari
Feb 2012
#65
Metaphysics, morality and intellectualism have no place in civil disobedience.
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#93
No - kicking potential supporters in the nuts has no place in civil disobedience.
hack89
Feb 2012
#94
Well, considering the violent confrontation at the 68 Democratic convention, I would say yes.
hack89
Feb 2012
#91
Driving 15 miles to the football stadium doesn't seem to help the Jets, does it? nt
sudopod
Feb 2012
#25
Occupy Oakland was doing a lot and they want their own space to continue serving the community...
Luminous Animal
Feb 2012
#29
that guy in the wheelchair obviously knows nothing about the symbolism of that flag, right?
msongs
Feb 2012
#26
I tend to think that in some quarters, once OWS didn't become the "Democrat's tea party"
TheKentuckian
Feb 2012
#37
I am not concerned about the damned flag. I am concerned about losing supporters because of
jwirr
Feb 2012
#49
I hope so. In almost every protest I have witnessed since the 60s there have been fringe groups
jwirr
Feb 2012
#59
I have some qualms with the case in Oakland as it wasn't their own flag which they burned, however
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#80
I don't know, maybe they were plants or perhaps their youthful frustation with the pace of the
Uncle Joe
Feb 2012
#86
i'm concerned about an important movement being marginalized by either an idiot
arely staircase
Feb 2012
#66