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Starry Messenger

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12. How can a teacher produce better results? They don't take the test.

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 01:14 AM

Mar 2013

Unless there is some kind of protection built in for teachers against results that are obtained from students taking the test who were never their students, or students who just bubble in random shit because the tests do not affect their own future, then teachers should not be evaluated on the basis on these tests.

I teach ceramics, a subject not tested, but I am foursquare against teaching jobs being dependent on test results. Hell, studies just came out today that Michelle Rhee's reign of terror in DC actually resulted in *worse* test score gaps. http://www.democraticunderground.com/11245976

Of course it matters who teaches kids.

Maybe the Michelle Rhees of the world shouldn't be making those decisions.

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Tests matter, or they don't [View all] Recursion Mar 2013 OP

I picked : Pass. I would say: Sometimes tests matter and sometimes teachers can influence them. BlueJazz Mar 2013 #1

A reductionist poll like this deserves some "Pass" votes. Recursion Mar 2013 #2

Tests matter. rrneck Mar 2013 #3

"tests are an evaluation tool, not an objective." Exactly. Very well said. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #5

+1 cyberswede Mar 2013 #13

your poll is definitely too simplistic liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #4

What does a high school diploma mean in your view? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #8

Tests measure how well a student can remember something. Apophis Mar 2013 #6

I think one of the problems with the way curricula is taught is that it is too cram packed liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #7

Give students tests to evaluate what students know. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #9

I don't do push polls. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #10

Tests do matter, but the student is the one who has the most control over them. JVS Mar 2013 #11

How can a teacher produce better results? They don't take the test. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #12